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Re:Is the US about to split the internet? by throw0101a on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:29AM (#24082943)
> […] has to grapple with the fact that open societies have systematically outperformed authoritarian ones over the past century.

Perhaps they don't care about performance, but rather control. The Qing dynasty of Imperial Chine ruled from 1644-1912:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty

They got their asses handed to them starting in the 1800s of course:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation

But the current leadership may be happy with performing at 75% of open societies if they still get to run things: enough development to keep the outsiders at bay, not enough openness to cause trouble.

As long as their general rising prosperity, it may be good enough for most folks in China as well:

> It must be understood that liberalism and nationalism developed in China in lockstep, with one, in a sense, serving as means to the other. That is, liberalism was a means to serve national ends — the wealth and power of the country. And so when means and end came into conflict, as they inevitably did, the end won out. Nationalism trumped liberalism. Unity, sovereignty, and the means to preserve both were ultimately more important even to those who espoused republicanism and the franchise.

> China’s betrayal at Versailles did not help the cause of liberalism in China. After all, it was the standard bearers of liberalism — the U.K., France, and the United States — that had negotiated secret treaties to give Shandong to the Japanese.

> Former liberals gravitated toward two main camps, both overtly Leninist in organization, both unapologetically authoritarian: the Nationalists and the Communists. By the mid-1920s, the overwhelming majority of Chinese intellectuals believed that an authoritarian solution was China’s only recourse.

* https://supchina.com/2019/07/22/why-do-chinese-people-like-t...

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