Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by 42droids on Thursday August 06, 2020 @10:47AM
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German side streets are fairly dark already. This change will affect ‘large’ polluters, eg. floodlights in car parks, outside store areas, brightly lit buildings, etc.
It is a very welcomed change. In our neighbourhood ppl knowingly plant flowers and leave grass grow ‘wild’ to support insects.
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Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by Ma8ee on Thursday August 06, 2020 @02:43PM
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I’ve left about a third of my garden as a wild “meadow” and it has been full of flowers and bumblebees all summer. Even the municipality has left some lawns in the parks uncut for the benefit of wild flowers and bees. (Sweden btw)
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by nicbou on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:54AM
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Yes, German streets are quite dark. Some villages even close the lights at midnight.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by 42droids on Thursday August 06, 2020 @01:31PM
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This kind of make sense. Even in busy cities there are not many ppl walking around at night in Germany (less weekends).
Most areas outside of the cities are completely dead at night. Also, general safety is very good. (At least where I have been so far)
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by komali2 on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:58AM
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This will be great for stargazing as well then!
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by hunta2097 on Thursday August 06, 2020 @12:12PM
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As a budding stargazer I hope this dark-nights idea spreads to other countries.
Light pollution has the potential to get even worse with LED lighting which is no longer filterable like sodium lighting was.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by formerly_proven on Thursday August 06, 2020 @12:23PM
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I live in a fairly rural area in Germany and even if the nightsky is perfectly clear the cities in the distance cast a bright haze into the sky. They aren't that dark...
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by LargoLasskhyfv on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:01PM
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This reminds me of the movie Logan´s run all the time. The cites under their bubbles. Our's don't have the bubble over them, but look very similar from afar. All the illuminated haze. Fortunately I'm living right at the edge of one such large bubble, and can flee it within 30 minutes on a bicycle.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by Florin_Andrei on Thursday August 06, 2020 @07:22PM
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Yes. Light pollution leaks out pretty far away from the source. I don't know if there's any patch of land in Europe now where light pollution is zero. Maybe in a few places in Scandinavia.
Death Valley in California has pristine night skies. I cannot even begin to describe how different it is. Think - fine diamond dust on black velvet. There are stars everywhere you look. Amazing.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by bchanudet on Thursday August 06, 2020 @08:27PM
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There are still some spots with near-zeron light pollution in Europe, but those are getting smaller.
The most preserved one is surely around the Pic du Midi in French pyrenees. It is actually an Dark Sky Reserve since 2013.
And according to this map¹, North of Scotland seems a good spot too, among others.
1 : https://avex-asso.org/dossiers/pl/europe-2016/ (in French, but the colors are pretty self-explanatory)
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by wreath on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:17AM
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Yes, in this part of Portugal[1] it's almost zero. It's really really beautiful at night, it feels like in a dream.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by jtjbdhsjjdnd on Saturday August 08, 2020 @01:48AM
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Even sometimes insanely dark. About five years ago I went to see Sanssouci in the evening in winter. It was so dark that I couldn't even see my hand, let alone the palace.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by cheez on Thursday August 06, 2020 @10:55AM
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I do this too but I get bylaw visits from the city. Which cities?
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by aeyes on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:26AM
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Search for wildflower seed bomb mix, you shouldn't get in trouble for this. My mom used to do this every year when I lived in Germany, looks pretty and zero maintenance.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by qchris on Thursday August 06, 2020 @08:03PM
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These are great, but just remember to take care the seeds are for species indigenous to your region!
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by carlmr on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:56AM
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Cool idea, i have a garden and i hate maintaining it anyway.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by cheez on Thursday August 06, 2020 @01:29PM
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Yes, very cool idea.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by 42droids on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:08AM
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Dresden. Don’t get me wrong the gardens are neat but ppl keep longer grass, bushes, lots of flowers. Don’t know much about the laws in Germany (only recently moved here) but I can see that ppl care about their environment.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by cheez on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:18AM
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OK thanks.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by dx034 on Friday August 07, 2020 @02:13AM
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I don't think any German cities bans you from having wild gardens. Quite the opposite, some cities consider banning people from replacing front yards with gravel.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by m_fayer on Friday August 07, 2020 @06:46AM
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I love this. Of course it's different if you're in a dangerous neighborhood, but if you're not, dark streets punctuated by orbs of light from reasonably bright street lights are romantic, mysterious, sometimes soothing. It makes that evening stroll a bit more magical.
Re:Germany plans to dim lights at night to save insects
by Jakob on Friday August 07, 2020 @07:00AM
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I’m the city I lived, the street lamps turned on when they sensed someone in the vicinity and turned off again after some time.
So it’s not actually dark where you are and walking, it’s just dark where no one is.