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Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by alfiedotwtf on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:26AM (#24070657)
Back in the BBS days, there were textfile describing how to wire your beige box to either turn on strong magnets or ignite termite if a case was detected.

... I don’t know of anyone actually implementing this though :)

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by geerlingguy on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:59AM (#24070912)
I would imagine that's thermite and not termite ;)

If the latter, the server would probably be okay, and it would take a very long time for the termites to damage the surrounding room enough to be a security deterrent.

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by kibwen on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:11PM (#24074948)
Nah, it's termite. You're trying to destroy your logs, right?
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by alfiedotwtf on Friday August 07, 2020 @05:28AM (#24080039)
Ha! Very nice :)
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by DoofusOfDeath on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:20AM (#24071704)
Probably just a debugging technique.
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by hinkley on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:51PM (#24074752)
Well, it certainly complicates debugging.
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by Teknoman117 on Thursday August 06, 2020 @01:38PM (#24073361)
or a bugging technique?
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by alfiedotwtf on Friday August 07, 2020 @05:27AM (#24080027)
Sorry that was a typo. Haha!
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by codezero on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:43PM (#24074673)
It's funny when I think back, I was a teen in the 90s and did plenty of questionable stuff online and w/ local BBS scene (Kevin Mitnick was busted in Raleigh and many rumors existed about his presence in the BBS scene, obviously fantasy though!).

Nobody I know who got arrested ever managed to destroy anything. When I think about it, we all assumed the cops would storm in when we were in the act of doing something bad, probably like in the movies lol, when in practice, they tend to pick you up when you are really off guard, duh.

Very few people had automatic protections because like, our parents would probably get mad if we burned down the house :)

When it came to me, the FBI did knock on my front door, and I managed to dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda

I lost my entire BBS, all the custom code and ANSI I had for it, among other ancient treasures that I'd probably still have with my napster mp3s :)

Of course they didn't come for me, there had been a flasher in the neighborhood on halloween...

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by alfiedotwtf on Friday August 07, 2020 @05:34AM (#24080087)
Hehe, yeah :)

When I was a teen, I somehow got a modem number at NASA, and I stupidly gave it to a friend. He tried to brute force it, but he got door knocked. He quickly formatted his disks, but it wasn’t even the cops haha!

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by rasz on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:22PM (#24077077)
This is how you earn tampering with evidence charges, up to 20 years felony.
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by codezero on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:45PM (#24088515)
Well, keep this in mind: I knew quite a few people who got interviewed with, and arrested by authorities. Everyone under the age of 18 in the 90s got a slap on the wrist because they hadn't got too good at punishing those kinds of crimes. I think the worst I saw was $1200 paid over 12 months to AT&T.

After 18, you're done, even if they can't think of a good charge, they'll make them up, which is exactly what they did back then, cross state commerce was a blanket thing to grab folks.

I stopped doing anything questionable well before I turned 18.

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by abstractbarista on Friday August 07, 2020 @12:21PM (#24083599)
Eh, it's worth it, depending on what you're doing. I'd much rather get in trouble for a hard drive full of zeroes, than them knowing what was on it beforehand.

Today, you should encrypt everything, and cut power before physical access is obtained. Will that count as "tampering"? I was just turning off my computer. No, I do not remember the key.

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by codezero on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:47PM (#24088521)
Looking back, federal authorities really only came when they had the evidence they needed already, and local authorities were way too far behind to know what was going on (in the 90s).

In practice, the only real protection we had (those of us in my social group) was that we were minors, and lucky that laws hadn't caught up yet.

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by eertami on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:22AM (#24079637)
Surely it has to be actual evidence before you "tamper" with it.

If I delete a file on my computer today that would be potentially "evidence" if seized, and the police come knocking tomorrow, I haven't committed a crime by using my personal computer in the past.

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by sneak on Friday August 07, 2020 @08:46AM (#24081230)
I do not suggest that you test this theory. Your optimism seems wholly unwarranted here, knowing what we know about the federal prosecutors.
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by jandrese on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:50PM (#24074743)
The FBI was investigating a flasher?
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by codezero on Thursday August 06, 2020 @04:00PM (#24074833)
I could be remembering incorrectly, but it may have been reoccurring or not even really the FBI, but state police or something and my parents said it was the FBI.

I only saw people in suits with a black car outside knocking on the door, also this was like 30 years ago so don't twist my arm :)

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by Fjolsvith on Thursday August 06, 2020 @10:01AM (#24070941)
This was a plot device used in the TV series Mr. Robot Season 2, Episode 3, about 27 minutes in.
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by luckylion on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:54AM (#24070869)
Some ideas have been tested, there was an entertaining talk a few years back at DefCon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpX8YvNg6Y
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by rasz on Thursday August 06, 2020 @09:20PM (#24077058)
DEF CON 23 - Zoz - And That's How I Lost My Other Eye...Explorations in Data Destruction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpX8YvNg6Y
Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by Mandatum on Thursday August 06, 2020 @11:52PM (#24078029)
Hacking with Ramzy.. 14 years old now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hNQ280Zkk4

Re:Usbkill – anti-forensic tool to halt computer when new US... by Nasrudith on Thursday August 06, 2020 @03:14PM (#24074417)
I think in most cases the thermite trap would probably get you into more trouble for ATF violations and not even help by adding destruction of evidence and whatever they imagined was on the drive unless you had some authority like security clearence and classified documents or some sort of legal pretext to justify uses of such flammable boobytraps.