Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0

Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by zamadatix on Wednesday August 05, 2020 @02:30PM (#24063979)

Percentage wise adblock users or Firefox users total to about 10% of users so it really depends on the target user demographic to say whether or not you need to specially account that those users aren't being reflected. Coding tools probably. Game for a social website probably not.

Also depends on the financial model, if it's primarily ad based then the group of users you don't have good ad data for isn't something you should care about either.

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by AlchemistCamp on Wednesday August 05, 2020 @03:05PM (#24064321)

I've run both Google Analytics and my own back-end analytics on the same site and found GA missing over 1/3 of my total non-bot traffic. Most of that traffic was Firefox.

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by zamadatix on Thursday August 06, 2020 @12:52AM (#24068219)

Would be curious which site that was and if it falls into the target demographic stuff mentioned.

Also to note the above % for FF share isn't just from 3rd party analytics anyways, places like Wikimedia report similar numbers. Different services different amounts but again, target demographic usually and not by much unless it's extremely tech niche or something.

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by AlchemistCamp on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:46PM (#24114372)

The demographic is about 1/5 US, with sizable traffic from India, Brazil, Germany, Nigeria and Australia. It's mostly 18-45 and mostly male.

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by Angeo34 on Wednesday August 05, 2020 @04:47PM (#24065428)

While that number may be true you have to keep in mind that more than 50% of global FF users are based in DACH and by extension the rest of German speaking Europe (i.e. Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Switzerland).

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by zamadatix on Thursday August 06, 2020 @12:49AM (#24068207)

Ignoring that the DACH region only has ~100 million people and that if every last man woman and child were monthly FF users it still wouldn't be half of 210 million users... according to Mozilla's own stats at https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity regional MAU is:

10M Brazil

13M China

12M France

20M Germany

12M India

9M Indonesia

6M Italy

7M Poland

7M Russia

30M United States

It's honestly a bit frustrating how even on HN everyone thinks they know who around the world uses something more than the actual public data on it. On one hand you have people insisting the data is missing huge swaths of people and on the other you have people insisting a region has over half the users when that would be less than half the users according to the very data the other person is trying to say is missing lots of people!

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by Angeo34 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @04:24PM (#24094927)

You are aware that 20 million users in a population of 80m total is way way way more than 30 million out of a 300m population?

It seems amazing how clueless people on hn are yet they post their middle class thoughts.

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by zamadatix on Sunday August 09, 2020 @01:27PM (#24101173)

HN isn't the kind of place for your closing comment. Also you replied to yourself by accident.

25% is indeed greater density than 10% and bicycles have two wheels but neither has anything to do with making "50% of global FF users are based in DACH " anywhere near an accurate statement.

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Re:Latest Firefox rolls out Enhanced Tracking Protection 2.0 by Angeo34 on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:49PM (#24114412)

>but neither has anything to do with making "50% of global FF users are based in DACH " anywhere near an accurate statement.

DACH is not just Germany neither is it just Germany, Austria and Switzerland it's the German speaking world (and that isn't just DE, CH, AT, LU and LI either) Those reach nearly 30-40% of worldwide users go look it up yourself.

>25% is indeed greater density than 10% and bicycles have two wheels

Someone seems mad his useless comment got debunked. You tried to "well actually" while not understanding the irony of your own post.

>HN isn't the kind of place for your closing comment. Also you replied to yourself by accident.

That should be a reply of mine to you seeing you are literally just posting for the sake of posting after realizing your argument is beyond useless. Your post could literally have been "I LIKE SPAGHETTI" and it would have contained the same amount of valuable information as it does now.

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