Few if any laptops have decent cameras. This is partially because until recently most users didn't actually care that much, but also for practical reasons; modern laptops have very slim lids, so you can't really fit decent optics (a phone is a good bit deeper).

Thanks for pointing out the size - didn't quite think about just how much thinner lids are than phones. That is certainly a very real limiter

For comparison, the MacBook Air has about 2-3mm of usable space in the lid for optics + sensor. The iPhone has something like 7 or 8mm. For lens design and the ability to have a very slightly larger sensor, that's a huge difference.

> modern laptops have very slim lids, so you can't really fit decent optics (a phone is a good bit deeper).

What about the iMac?

What are you talking about? My $3k Dell, and $3k Lenovo have horrible cameras.

It seems like you own a lot of expensive laptops.

You realize where you're posting, right?

Work in IT long enough and it's not hard to use a lot of hardware:)

And that's even more absurd