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Re:Stingrays and Dirtboxes: how cops can secretly track your... by boomboomsubban on Monday August 03, 2020 @10:35PM (#24045956)
>Legality is, in general, a matter of fact. The legality or constitutionality of a matter is determined in the courts

This makes absolutely no sense. If it is a matter of fact, it should be independently provable not require courts to decide.

Legality is supposed to be the public's opinion of the morality of an action, but in reality it is the ruling class' opinion of how the action impacts them.

An employee knowingly assisting their company commit immoral acts should try to stop them, though a concern about you or your families well-being is a legitimate reason to just try and walk away. Don't delude yourself into thinking tools will be used legally so it is acceptable.

Re:Stingrays and Dirtboxes: how cops can secretly track your... by x3n0ph3n3 on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @01:17AM (#24046885)
> This makes absolutely no sense. If it is a matter of fact, it should be independently provable not require courts to decide.

It makes plenty of sense once you realize that it's a fact that if a court decides something is illegal, the government may use its monopoly of force to enforce it. Don't confuse scientific fact with legal fact. Also don't confuse legal fact with a court's opinion as to whether the law was actually violated.

Re:Stingrays and Dirtboxes: how cops can secretly track your... by boomboomsubban on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @02:09AM (#24047153)
Supreme Court decisions come with majority and minority opinions because these things are clearly not facts. The government arbitrarily uses it's monopoly on force to entrench itself, leaving these "facts" to differ over time or by case.
Re:Stingrays and Dirtboxes: how cops can secretly track your... by 11thEarlOfMar on Monday August 03, 2020 @11:25PM (#24046229)
> Legality is supposed to be the public's opinion of the morality of an action

Does that mean that all legal acts are also moral?

Re:Stingrays and Dirtboxes: how cops can secretly track your... by boomboomsubban on Tuesday August 04, 2020 @02:03AM (#24047114)
Individuals morals differ, but ideally most people should view legal acts as moral acts. As I said, actual legality does not function like that.