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Re:The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free by dragonwriter on Monday August 03, 2020 @03:52PM (#24042538)
> I mean the science is bunk

Since you dismiss the existence of objective, non-ideological facts, isn't that necessarily your position on all science?

> but it wasn't "discredited" in the sense that you mean among the scientific community or the policy community across the West who enacted policies based on it well until after the mid 20th century

Yes, phrenology was discredited , and why you posted a link about eugenics to support your rebuttal of a point about phrenology that had nothing to do with eugenics, I don't know.

> The Nazis adopted scientific racism and this is proof they weren't motivated by scientific rationalism?

That wasn't my actual argument, but it works, since “scientific racism” doesn't actually follow the methodology of post-enlightment empiricism, merely adopting it as an elaborate rhetorical flourish for propaganda purposes, much the way that, say, intelligent design does. It recognizes that some of it's audience might be positively disposed to the superficial appearance of empiricism, rather than actually embracing it itself.

Re:The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free by googthrowaway42 on Monday August 03, 2020 @05:45PM (#24043828)
> Since you dismiss the existence of objective, non-ideological facts, isn't that necessarily your position on all science?

I already said I believe in an objective set of values so for you to say this means you've clearly missed the entire point of the discussion.