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Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by User23 on Sunday August 02, 2020 @01:04AM (#24026492)
Makes me think of this silliness I saw today: https://mobile.twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/12892831187305...

I recommend first watching it with you eyes closed and after that seeing how you can manipulate your perception. It was easy to hear “brain needle” with my eyes closed.

Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by zestyping on Sunday August 02, 2020 @04:08AM (#24027182)
I encountered this a while ago, and it's still astonishing that it's possible to hear such different things.

"Brain" and "green" are so similar that mistaking one for the other is not interesting. The really interesting pair is "storm" and "needle" — they seem wildly different.

I think what's going on is that the "ee" vowel sound and the hissing sound of an "s" both have a lot of high frequencies. It might be that an "ee" from a high-pitched speaker sounds similar to an "s" from a lower-pitched speaker, so the interpretation depends on what you infer the speaker's vocal frequency range to be.

And then when you notice that "needle" and "needo" sound almost the same, the "o" in "storm" is not that much of a stretch. "eedle" ~= "eeto" ~= "sto".

Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by Johnjonjoan on Sunday August 02, 2020 @03:07AM (#24026936)
Whichever word I repeated in my head as I heard it was what I heard even if looking at another. I could easily and reliably make it change between brainneedle, brainstorm, greenneedle and greenstorm using this method.

Edit: kind of think this is to do with the n at the start of needle being implicit as you already get the n sound at the end of green and brain. I think if you register another n the remaining sound sounds most like eedle and if you don't the remaining sound sounds most like storm... Or I may have listened to this too many times

Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by jb775 on Sunday August 02, 2020 @02:06AM (#24026703)
I heard "brain needle" with my eyes closed also. I could hear "green needle" but couldn't hear "storm" at all.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by brabel on Sunday August 02, 2020 @07:52AM (#24028070)
I am not a native english speaker... didn't work for me. With closed eyes I heard something like brain-needle :D and while reading both words shown, I still heard "brain-needle".
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by dunefox on Sunday August 02, 2020 @09:29AM (#24028569)
Exactly my experience, too. I simply cannot hear either of the words shown.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by ladberg on Sunday August 02, 2020 @01:59AM (#24026677)
This is insane. Does anyone know where I could read about how this works or how the audio is generated?
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by TallGuyShort on Sunday August 02, 2020 @08:56AM (#24028418)
I don't and that's a good question, but you may be interested to know that it need not be generated. Look up some YouTube videos relating to the "Paul is dead" conspiracy theories and there are several examples. People swear they can hear "I buried Paul", but you can also make yourself hear "Cranberry sauce" (which is what a Beatle said was actually the line).
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by irthomasthomas on Sunday August 02, 2020 @04:15AM (#24027210)
I don't get it, all I can hear is some noise followed by 'brain storm'.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by dEnigma on Sunday August 02, 2020 @08:22AM (#24028226)
The point is that the "brainstorm" bit can also sound like "green needle" if you focus on it.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by yourkin on Sunday August 02, 2020 @04:30AM (#24027275)
I started with my eyes closed and heard nothing but noise. With eyes open I caught a glimpse of the brainstorm label and started to hear that and only that. No green needle, as much as I tried to make it flip, it did not.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by TeMPOraL on Sunday August 02, 2020 @06:41AM (#24027771)
Woah. Can confirm it works as described for me - I hear both "green needle" and "brainstorm", depending on which word I read, or which word I think of when I close my eyes.

... or at least that was true until now; I've just retried it again, and I've lost the ability to hear the "-storm" ending. I can hear "green needle" or "brain needle", but no "storm.

Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by dEnigma on Sunday August 02, 2020 @08:26AM (#24028251)
The comments below are fascinating too. Some claiming that it's two separate recordings even though you can easily see that it's a single six second video, and others even talking about Russian brain washing.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by sireat on Sunday August 02, 2020 @03:08PM (#24030803)
Strange I only hear Brain Storm, eyes closed or open, reading or not reading,

Instead of Green Needle I am hearing a weird backwards sounding sound.

Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by bigodbiel on Sunday August 02, 2020 @06:10PM (#24032211)
I cannot hear brainstorm, no matter how hard I focus
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by whalabi on Sunday August 02, 2020 @03:11AM (#24026959)
Whoa. I get the green/brain bit and can kinda tweak my perception to hear both, but needle and storm? When I hear both from the same audio they sound so very different and I can't fathom how they come from the same waves.
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by Izkata on Sunday August 02, 2020 @03:59AM (#24027148)
This looks like one of the early posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackmagicfuckery/comments/8jxzee/y...

Deep in the comments, someone posted this:

> If you slow down the audio/video to about 25% speed, you'll notice that the sound for 'needle' begins a fraction earlier than 'storm'. This is because the 's'-sound (in storm) actually begins in the 'ee'-gap of 'needle'. The 't'-sound of 'storm' atches with the 'dl'-sound of 'needle'. The whooshing sound during the 'ee'-gap of the 'needle' sound is heard by our brains as an 's'-sound and - since the brain is already primed for 'storm' - we hear the rest accordingly.

The toy is supposed to be saying Brainstorm: https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Brainstorm

Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by whalabi on Sunday August 02, 2020 @11:35PM (#24033979)
That's exactly what I was trying to understand, and how I was trying to understand it. Thank you
Re:A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots ... by honeymilk_ on Sunday August 02, 2020 @04:51AM (#24027362)
Before a basic sense-percept arrives at conscious awareness it is transformed by various sub-minds. Insight meditation is about investigating this fabrication process. Here is a free resource on that topic for anyone who wants to take it further: https://www.dharmaoverground.org/web/guest/dharma-wiki/-/wik...