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Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by yardie on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:08AM (#24008713)
Anyone can do this with a canceled check. If she didn’t authorize the withdrawal she calls the bank and they put the money back. And they start their own investigation. Our banking system is trash but it’s not lawless.

The company committed bank and wire fraud. They’ll get dealt with by the secret service and FBI.

Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by SilasX on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:31AM (#24008890)
No? I was defrauded by wire and reported it immediately to the bank and law enforcement but “they couldn’t do anything”.
Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by yardie on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:46AM (#24009075)
That would be a non-standard account with a non-standard way of withdrawing money. EFT and ACH withdrawals are fully protected.

Money wires are different, all the action is sender side. Even for me, Fidelity accountholder, a SWIFT money wire takes days to set up and I have to confirm it multiple times. I get the impression the bank hates doing them and will throw as many roadblocks as possible unless you are absolutely committed to it.

Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by SilasX on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:13AM (#24009403)
You specifically said:

>The company committed bank and wire fraud. They’ll get dealt with by the secret service and FBI.

And:

>Our banking system is trash but it’s not lawless.

My experience is directly counter to that, given that it was a non-investigated wire fraud despite being blatant and the money going to a known local address/account. Saying that ACHs are better doesn't correct those overstatements of yours.

Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by ianhawes on Friday July 31, 2020 @10:45AM (#24009062)
"Direct deposit" is ACH and it is reversible up to 180 days. The parent comment is referring to ACH.

"Wire transfer" could be either Fedwire or SWIFT and it is not reversible.

Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by SilasX on Friday July 31, 2020 @03:50PM (#24013114)
Parent also said that law enforcement will investigate all wire fraud. My experience shows that is false, and that is independent of the ACH point.

See my downvoted follow-up reiterating this obvious point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24009403

Re:Tech Sector Feeling Covid-19’s Economic Pain by simonebrunozzi on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:32PM (#24012011)
Correct. Came to write exactly this.

Also, since this is HN: no, Bitcoin or other crypto "transfers" are not reversible.