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Re:An update on our security incident by ehsankia on Friday July 31, 2020 @12:30AM (#24005670)
Were the spear fishing attacked also used to get 2FA, or did these accounts not have 2FA? Would hardware based 2FA not have stopped this?
Re:An update on our security incident by technion on Friday July 31, 2020 @12:59AM (#24005810)
Without details it's hard to say. They talk about "phone spear phishing". It's within the realm of that description to say they were hit the same way someone I know recently was - someone called and said "Can you just install Teamviewer on your desktop for me and give access to a logged on session".
Re:An update on our security incident by lighthazard on Friday July 31, 2020 @01:04AM (#24005836)
Maybe? I imagine a spear fishing attack could entail the target is sent to a false panel to login where it sends a true 2FA request. The target then freely gives this 2FA code to the attacker.
Re:An update on our security incident by Thorrez on Friday July 31, 2020 @04:04AM (#24006685)
That compromise OTP 2FA, but not U2F 2FA.
Re:An update on our security incident by bananabreakfast on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:30AM (#24006232)
It says right there in the linked page that the phishing attack was able to manipulate multiple employees into giving access past their 2FA.
Re:An update on our security incident by Thorrez on Friday July 31, 2020 @04:03AM (#24006679)
Yeah, that answers 1 of the questions. But we still don't know what type of 2FA was being used, or what technique the attackers used.
Re:An update on our security incident by zamalek on Friday July 31, 2020 @12:41AM (#24005729)
I haven't seen a form of phishing that hardware 2FA doesn't stop. Yes, it would have.
Re:An update on our security incident by monoideism on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:35AM (#24006250)
Significant forms of phishing are stopped by U2F (as used by Yubikey and others), by crytographically binding your credential to the domain name , and only issuing an approval signature if the site matches. Obviously, this stops credential phishing.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/07/google-security-keys-neu...

https://medium.com/@antonisikora/how-u2f-security-keys-can-e...

Re:An update on our security incident by Thorrez on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:52AM (#24006322)
You and zamalek appear to be in agreement.
Re:An update on our security incident by monoideism on Friday July 31, 2020 @01:43PM (#24011293)
You're right - I misread the comment. I'd delete my comment if I could.
Re:An update on our security incident by Thorrez on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:54AM (#24006328)
It does depend on whether the hardware 2FA is U2F (which stops phishing) or OTP[1] (which doesn't).

[1] http://www.tokenguard.com/RSA-SecurID-SID700.asp

Re:An update on our security incident by fareesh on Friday July 31, 2020 @01:01AM (#24005824)
The way it is worded can also mean that there were XSS vulnerabilities in the internal tool since they are saying "gained information about how our processes work". I feel like that's a strange and vague thing to say. The right kind of xss vulnerability would enable them to bypass 2fa too, maybe steal backup codes even.
Re:An update on our security incident by berkes on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:05AM (#24006132)
I understood that line as 'saw names, contact detail, positions and permissions of employees'
Re:An update on our security incident by Thorrez on Friday July 31, 2020 @02:53AM (#24006324)
If there's an XSS attack I don't consider that phishing.
Re:An update on our security incident by fareesh on Friday July 31, 2020 @05:52AM (#24007157)
Isn't it both? Phish first user, post to internal tool and xss attack second user.
Re:An update on our security incident by Thorrez on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:04AM (#24007490)
Yeah I guess you're right, it could be like an exploit chain where 1 link in the chain is phishing to gain access to something and xss is the next link for lateral movement.

But I don't know what "The right kind of xss vulnerability would enable them to bypass 2fa too" means. If the attacker doesn't have 2FA I would think the attacker can't log in, thus meaning the first link of the chain has no purpose.

But I also think XSS in this case is not very likely. From interviews with the attackers it sounds like they're social engineering experts who hang out on social engineering forums, not XSS experts[1][2][3].

[1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/07/whos-behind-wednesdays-e...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/technology/twitter-hacker...

[3] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/07/twitter-hacking-for-prof...