Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by goto11 on Thursday July 30, 2020 @07:08PM
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All the greatest writers, painters, composers, sculptors etc. dedicated themselves full time to their art. You just can't reach a comparable level of mastery by dabbling in your spare time.
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by the_af on Thursday July 30, 2020 @08:27PM
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First, this is a secondary discussion. Mastery? That wasn't the argument. The argument was about whether writing books can exist separate from monetary compensation.
Second, as has been mentioned to you in another comment, mastery is not directly related to having been paid for your art. There are acknowledged poets whose work was published posthumously. They didn't live off it.
(The quote was by Stephen King, by the way. Regardless of what you think about his literary skill, the man sure can speak about writing).
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by goto11 on Friday July 31, 2020 @05:38AM
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If you don't care about quality then I guess you are right.
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by the_af on Friday July 31, 2020 @08:54AM
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I never said I didn't care about quality, just that the discussion you entered was about whether books would exist without payment and whether only the "insane" would still write. You seem to want to take the argument on a tangent, but please read again the post which sparked this thread. What the original comment asserted was patently false.
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by icebraining on Friday July 31, 2020 @06:44AM
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"'But you're Philip Glass! What are you doing here?' It was obvious that I was installing his dishwasher and I told him I would soon be finished."
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2001/nov/24/arts.highe...
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by goto11 on Friday July 31, 2020 @07:25AM
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Whats your point? Are you suggesting society would be better off is Philip Glass never had become a professional composer?
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by icebraining on Friday July 31, 2020 @12:06PM
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I mostly wanted to share that fun anecdote.
I don't think anyone suggested that. Society may be better off despite Glass never becoming a professional composer, though.
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by goto11 on Monday August 03, 2020 @04:27AM
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Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but Glass did become a (quite successful) professional composer and performer.
Re:Internet Archive responds to publishers’ lawsuit
by icebraining on Monday August 03, 2020 @06:35AM
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Sorry, occasionally my grasp of English is lacking.
I meant that, while Glass not becoming a professional composer would have been bad by itself, it may be a reasonable loss compared to the advantages.
"Painting. Sculpture. Composing. Singing. Acting. The playing of a musical instrument. Writing. Enough books have been written on these seven subjects alone to sink a fleet of luxury liners. And the only thing we seem to be able to agree upon about them is this: that those who practise these arts honestly would continue to practise them even if they were not paid for their efforts; even if their efforts were criticized or even reviled; even on pain of imprisonment or death."
He struck gold, of course, but note the sentiment he expressed. By his own admission, had he never been paid for it, he would have kept writing anyway, because that's what he does. And when he was starting he had other jobs -- and a family to support -- and really struggled with money, but kept going anyway.