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Re:Del.icio.us by kortilla on Thursday July 30, 2020 @01:54AM (#23995099)
Being the target of racism and being over-represented are two orthogonal things. Being the target of racism has no impact on your demographics in a population.
Re:Del.icio.us by 3FBD4FDE on Thursday July 30, 2020 @06:23AM (#23996488)
Being the target of racism sure as hell will impact demographics when the population in a group is voluntary.

How many african-americans join the KKK?

Re:Del.icio.us by kortilla on Friday July 31, 2020 @11:15AM (#24009436)
No, the point I was making is that you can’t point to racism or a lack thereof and make any statements about representation. Both over and under-represented groups can be the targets of widespread racism.
Re:Del.icio.us by quadrifoliate on Friday July 31, 2020 @09:00PM (#24016268)
You are correct, and I was incorrectly conflating the two in my previous comment on this subject.

Since I can't edit it, the following might explain my position better: Asians get summarily excluded from a lot of minority-focused programs in tech on the basis of being over-represented. This should stop, and Asians should be included in minority-focused programs in tech. This is because (as you said, and as shown by this comment) they can be, and often are a target of casual racism and stereotyping.

Re:Del.icio.us by kortilla on Saturday August 01, 2020 @03:39PM (#24023268)
It depends on the purpose of the program. If the purpose is to recruit even more, then they shouldn’t be included because they are already over-represented. Many of the minority-focused programs are about recruitment and increasing the pipeline.