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Re:ITER: World's largest nuclear fusion project begins assembly by perl4ever on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @11:15AM (#23987540)
>Which aspects of the invasion of Iraq were future oriented?

The planning of it, which, you know, happened before "mission accomplished" and all the things that went wrong. It has been widely reported and asserted that the planning started considerably before 9/11, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_C...

Re:ITER: World's largest nuclear fusion project begins assembly by chriswarbo on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:01PM (#23988994)
> Formation 1997

That's 6 years before the invasion, so slightly longer than a single election cycle, and significantly shorter than the duration of the war itself. I wouldn't exactly call that 'future oriented', especially since 3 of those years were spent under the Clinton administration; Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld pulled the trigger pretty quickly once in power.

It's also incredibly short-term compared to its contemporaries, like Russia's "Foundations of Geopolitics" or China's "Peaceful Rise".

Re:ITER: World's largest nuclear fusion project begins assembly by perl4ever on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:45PM (#23989547)
I don't see the term "future oriented" as having any firm meaning in a vacuum, as a somehow absolute judgment; it's meaningful in a relative sense and that's how I used it.

After 9/11, most Americans became more future oriented than immediately before; both advocating for the invasion and addressing "root causes" in different ways are different forms of that. Either was more focused on the future than maintaining sanctions and occasional airstrikes.

Re:ITER: World's largest nuclear fusion project begins assembly by chriswarbo on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @02:34PM (#23990090)
> After 9/11, most Americans became more future oriented than immediately before

I really can't tell if you're trolling at this point.

Declaring war against an intangible form of political violence, as a knee-jerk reaction to a specific incident, which ends up perpetuating that form of violence, is a classic example of short-term thinking.

Re:ITER: World's largest nuclear fusion project begins assembly by hindsightbias on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @01:31PM (#23989399)
We have plans to invade everywhere, buildings full of plans.

“Future” oriented thinking would be Phase IV Occupation plans. That filing cabinet was empty (by design) and “It’s the UNs problem now” is not very future-oriented strategery.