Re:Amazon gets priority while mail gets delayed, say US lett...
by triceratops on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:31PM
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> Consequently, the private sector abandoned pensions because they were unaffordable.
So a pay cut by another name? Because even if pensions aren't available, individuals still need money to retire on
Re:Amazon gets priority while mail gets delayed, say US lett...
by jcranmer on Monday July 27, 2020 @04:03PM
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I'm not sure. In a traditional pension scheme, the company kicks money into the pension fund, and this kick of money plus the internal investment income of the fund provides the assets to cover the liability. In modern 401k schemes, the company kicks some money (in addition to the employee kicking money) into the 401k to generate the internal investment income to cover the liability.
It would be a pay cut if the modern salary plus employer match were less than the prior salary plus employer contribution to the pension fund. I do not know if this is the case (especially when you maximize the match). I also do not know to what degree companies were underfunding the pensions in the past. My suspicion is that the upper-middle-class who maximize employer match are no worse off, perhaps better off, but that the median employee is worse off.
This explains a lot about pensions. First, having to have the entire pension cash value up front makes pensions extraordinarily expensive: giving someone a $1k pay raise puts you over $20k out-of-pocket for that pension. Consequently, the private sector abandoned pensions because they were unaffordable. The other observation is that, because almost all public pension funds have assumed unrealistically high growth rates, so consequently their funding rates have consistently slipped.
The truth of the matter is that virtually all public-sector pensions are in exactly the same boat as USPS's pension is. It's just that the governments are more effective at sweeping their pension issues under the rug, while they have forced the USPS to have its pension issue sit in broad daylight.
We should be pushing to force the same reckoning on cities and states sooner rather than letting things deteriorate while thinking we'll magically make up lost ground in the next decade.
[1] Edit: As an addendum, the USPS is specific required to 100% fund its pension benefit. This 100% funding requirement is actually legally unique, although a decent portion of the private sector does seek to do so.