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Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by sushshshsh on Monday July 27, 2020 @10:38AM (#23965476)
If I was able to receive a definite answer from my employer about a real remote date, I would have purchased a house for under 100k in Montana months ago by now.
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by doopy-loopy2 on Monday July 27, 2020 @10:48AM (#23965573)
I'm sure a small percentage of people would do the same!

On the other hand, I think the large majority of people want to go back to the office (once it is safe to do so)

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by burlesona on Monday July 27, 2020 @11:27AM (#23966006)
Have surveyed this at my (large) office and it’s about 50/50.

I don’t know what the exact numbers would be aggregated across the entire population, but from comparing surveys across my own office and several other large companies I think there are two large minority positions (want to WFH forever / want back in office) and a third slice of undecideds.

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by axk on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @12:03AM (#23972177)
Similar results at my (reasonably large) company:

* 20% want to go back to the office

* 30% want to WFH forever

* 50% want the flexibility to WFH 2-3 days a week

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by 0xffff2 on Monday July 27, 2020 @01:09PM (#23967088)
I was firmly in favor of working for the office pre-pandemic because my organization's WFH infrastructure wasn't really there yet despite a pretty liberal policy allowing us to WFH pretty much whenever we wanted to.

Post-pademic, we've figured out and fixed a lot of the tech and culture issues years faster than we would have otherwise and I'm suddenly much more comfortable staying remote indefinitely.

I'd be curious to know if my own change of heart is unique.

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by dannyw on Monday July 27, 2020 @11:09AM (#23965815)
Citation needed on the large majority of people wanting to go back to the office?

Anecdotally, a significant number of my colleagues hope to be able to remote forever. Some are looking at finally realizing their dreams of buying a nice home; a third of the price as it'd cost in the city.

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by tdeck on Monday July 27, 2020 @01:24PM (#23967258)
Two of my teammates have literally moved out of state. When I do go back to the office it's still going to be a smaller circle.
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by stjohnswarts on Monday July 27, 2020 @04:19PM (#23968981)
I really doubt a large majority of people want to work in the office. Most people do not. Nearly all of my friends (computer geeks) enjoy working from home, it's more of the marketing/sales/manager types that want to get back in the office even though if you corner them they will say they really aren't any less productive at home and can still communicate with whomever they want. Maybe they should go back in and leave the rest of us happy at home.
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by zionic on Monday July 27, 2020 @11:21AM (#23965942)
100k in Montana will practically get you a palace on 100 acres lol
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by panopticon on Monday July 27, 2020 @01:47PM (#23967540)
Depends where. Used to live in the western part of the state near West Yellowstone (parents still have a place there), and the prices there are kind of surprising. Even ignoring the Yellowstone Club, there are a lot of multi-million dollar homes sitting on relatively small plots of land (relative to other places we lived in the midwest, not relative to SF).

The western part of the state is where most of the picturesque landscape is, and there were a lot of expensive developments in the area and on the Idaho side of the border from us too.

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by sushshshsh on Monday July 27, 2020 @12:08PM (#23966431)
Eastern Montana, for sure ;)
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by acwan93 on Monday July 27, 2020 @11:52AM (#23966276)
Tangentially speaking, what does say about Bay Area housing? Anecdotally, I used to look at Google's performance as an indicator on South Bay housing prices.
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by asadlionpk on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:01PM (#23968245)
Housing prices are in a bubble for sure! They are artificially being kept steady.

Rents are still the same but with 1-2 months free deal (which translates to around a few hundred dollars per month down from pre-covid).

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by geronb on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:51PM (#23968730)
Rents are down 10-30% in SF. I received a 10% discount on my lease renewal along with 8 weeks free.
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by perl4ever on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @12:12PM (#23977248)
>Housing prices are in a bubble for sure! They are artificially being kept steady.

Artificially only in the sense that most people who would have been selling their house right now are cancelling their plans due to the pandemic, not some sort of organized conspiracy.

Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by the_reformation on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:47PM (#23968701)
I think its not realistic to expect employers to know this right now.
Re:Google to keep employees home until summer 2021 by tantalor on Monday July 27, 2020 @10:43AM (#23965518)
Do it if that's what you want!