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Re:Grit Has a Negligible Effect on Success Compared to Intel... by perl4ever on Sunday July 26, 2020 @05:59PM (#23960506)
>Firstly, neither is ever zero. That would only ever be true in a dead person.

Pedantically speaking, a depressed person can easily have zero drive to do stuff and still be intelligent.

As I said in another comment, "fixed" intelligence implicitly means a fixed ceiling; assuming we all know of intoxication, dementia, etc. is something I think is required by HN standards of being reasonably charitable towards the people you are addressing, also known as the Cooperative Principle.[1]

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle

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Re:Grit Has a Negligible Effect on Success Compared to Intel... by zepto on Sunday July 26, 2020 @09:03PM (#23961404)
“Pedantically speaking”, a depressed person doesn’t have zero drive, just a low drive. There is also plenty of debate as to what depression is, and what an intelligent response to it would be.

Implying that I’m being uncharitable is the antithesis of the cooperative principle.

I’m being neither charitable nor uncharitable. I am merely disagreeing with your logic.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I disagree with the idea of a fixed ceiling on intelligence as a general concept.

If you mean performance on narrow tests then I agree there will be ceilings, but that is irrelevant to the general idea.

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