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Re:Headphones are collecting too much personal data (2019) by La1n on Sunday July 26, 2020 @03:43PM (#23959608)
>That sounds like you do have a choice: spend more money.

This is not an option for everyone. Don't poor people deserve privacy too?

Re:Headphones are collecting too much personal data (2019) by renewiltord on Sunday July 26, 2020 @10:18PM (#23961745)
Sure, but they deserve to be able to make the choice too. So if you move to a world where selling your data for services isn't available, then you're forcing them to pay and since we've determined they can't pay, all you're doing is removing the choice from them and forcing them in to the no-service option.

And I know how it is because I was once affected by this. All these "but the poor people" folks disappear when the poor actually ask for help. It's like this:

Poor people: Hey, can we get the right to work for a living in a dignified way and use the same services as everyone else?

The Privileged Protectors: Okay, how about I make it so you can't work for more than 20 hrs and umm... I'll throw in some privacy

Poor people:...

You can't eat privacy.

Re:Headphones are collecting too much personal data (2019) by La1n on Monday July 27, 2020 @05:05AM (#23963389)
>So if you move to a world where selling your data for services isn't available, then you're forcing them to pay and since we've determined they can't pay, all you're doing is removing the choice from them and forcing them in to the no-service option.

Like this is the only option... We already see a lot of services that sell multiple tiers of their products, with power users or larger companies paying significantly more.

Re:Headphones are collecting too much personal data (2019) by renewiltord on Monday July 27, 2020 @01:49PM (#23967568)
Oh and now they don't deserve this better service and you've made the choice for them. No thanks.

So eager to remove choices from someone else.

Re:Headphones are collecting too much personal data (2019) by La1n on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @09:58AM (#23975827)
>So eager to remove choices from someone else.

Oh people can't afford a car if it has seatbelts? Poor people should be able to buy unsafe cars! It's their choice!

Re:Headphones are collecting too much personal data (2019) by renewiltord on Tuesday July 28, 2020 @10:59PM (#23983139)
Well, yes, obviously.