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Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by leetrout on Saturday July 25, 2020 @08:55AM (#23948827)
I heard this story / explanation before:

You own a gas station and you want to fill up your tanks so you call the distributor and pay $1 / gallon. You then sell that for $1.10 / gallon making a 10% profit.

Now prices of crude doubles and you have 1000 gallons left to sell. It’s going to cost you $2 / gal to refill so you immediately raise your price to prevent a loss and cover the next fill.

I don’t know how accurate that is to the real situation gas stations face but I’d never thought of it in terms of selling higher to afford the next bulk delivery.

Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by bryanlarsen on Saturday July 25, 2020 @09:08AM (#23948904)
But when the price drops back down you don't immediately drop your price because why would you charge $1.10 for something you paid $2 for?

But your competitor will lower their prices when they get a refill, so you may end up having to lower your prices before you get your own refill.

Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by leetrout on Saturday July 25, 2020 @09:16AM (#23948954)
Yep, correct.
Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by Spooky23 on Saturday July 25, 2020 @09:32AM (#23949043)
The gas station is an agent of the oil company and gets paid commissions. The gas is on consignment, owned by the upstream oil company.

The big oil company uses futures and options to manage risk.

All aspects of that industry have slowly reconsolidated, so the market forces that push prices down are generally weak.

Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by fennecfoxen on Saturday July 25, 2020 @10:55AM (#23949631)
Also, most gas stations don't make significant profits on gas. They make more profit on the attached convenience store.

There are exceptions (e.g. near airport rental car returns, or in places where drivers aren't paying for their own gas — there used to be a Shell near San Mateo City Hall that always got on the front page of newspapers)

Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by Threeve303 on Saturday July 25, 2020 @09:11AM (#23948928)
This is what happened during Katrina and some of the hurricanes of the past decade or two.

The situation with the banks is slightly different.

The odds that the product, money, will cost more for them in the future does not line up with the recent history of bailouts, regulation changes, etc.

During Katrina, for example, it was a safe bet for the gas station owners that the next batch of gasoline could cost significantly more. A reasonable assumption due to the multiple wars in the middle east combined with a bad hurricane season shutting down gulf coast refineries.

In other words, the Federal Reserve did not run a discount window to provide cheap oil to gas stations. Even the strategic petroleum reserve, if tapped, would only benefit the refineries.

At any rate, one could argue that in both situations the entities involved made the safest and most profitable decision available to them.

Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by rightbyte on Saturday July 25, 2020 @09:05AM (#23948888)
Oh ... interesting take. But how did they order the first tanker? Surely there has to be credit involved in most cases.
Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by OJFord on Saturday July 25, 2020 @09:48AM (#23949141)
Yes, typically bought on credit and then sold for cash with which to buy the next load on credit, etc.
Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by kevin_thibedeau on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:41PM (#23950529)
That's nice but doesn't explain 30% hikes the day after a global supply disruption. They still have cheap gas in their tanks.
Re:Banks are slow to increase rates on savings accounts, but... by leetrout on Saturday July 25, 2020 @12:59PM (#23950686)
I understood it that everyone in the chain raises their prices to cover how high it’s predicted to be.