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Re:Why is CSS the way it is? by dsego on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:29PM (#23941429)
> I'm saying that padding-s has all the downsides of mixing styles into your markup, with none of the clarity of just using inline CSS.

I don't think it does, it's semantic with respect to your design system, not your content. The use of utility classes is to avoid the proliferation of "header-foo", "header-foo-large-padding", "button-foo", "button-foo-large-padding" or even worse usage of overly specific selectors, relying on element position, eg .main-content > header-foo { padding: 1rem } etc . Instead, you can just "header-foo.p3", "button-foo.p3".

> 1. Cool it. Nobody is attacking you, you don't need to attack me.

Sorry, not a native speaker, it didn't sound like an attack in my mind. With argument in bad faith I meant fixating on the simplified .centered example instead of discussing the general idea of design systems and utility classes.

I guess cause I got flagged I need to "cool it".

> I've encountered this antipattern in production code, so regardless of whether you were actually proposing it as a serious idea, some people do take this idea seriously, so it needs to be addressed. The problems I pointed out aren't theoretical: I've dealt with them in practice.

I don't understand this argument. A lot of major css libs and frameworks use utility classes. I'm sure they deal with production code and practice all the time. I know I do. This comment I take as very dismissive.

Re:Why is CSS the way it is? by kerkeslager on Friday July 24, 2020 @02:46PM (#23943121)
For the record, I didn't flag you.

> I don't think it does, it's semantic with respect to your design system, not your content. The use of utility classes is to avoid the proliferation of "header-foo", "header-foo-large-padding", "button-foo", "button-foo-large-padding" or even worse usage of overly specific selectors, relying on element position, eg .main-content > header-foo { padding: 1rem } etc . Instead, you can just "header-foo.p3", "button-foo.p3".

How is the proliferation of "padding-s", "padding-left-s", "padding-top-left-bottom" any better?

The solution here is don't do either of these things. Strictly stick to semantics. "primary-button", "secondary-button", "post-header", "comment-header", etc.

> I don't understand this argument. A lot of major css libs and frameworks use utility classes. I'm sure they deal with production code and practice all the time. I know I do. This comment I take as very dismissive.

Just because a lot of people do something doesn't mean it's a good thing to do.