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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by fastaguy88 on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:10AM (#23939699)
In the famous case of the individual placed into an unmarked van by unidentified federal agents, there was no arrest, and no access to a lawyer (and no trial in court). There was only an abduction, which was over after some number of hours.

If the agents were arresting people, giving them access to lawyers, and taking them to court, the issues would be very different.

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by tux1968 on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:15AM (#23940462)
Police are given the latitude, with some limitations, to arrest people legally even without charge. Importantly, they must release uncharged persons within a certain timeframe which seems to have been respected in this case.

If ultimately there is no charge and the person is released, they can obviously contact a lawyer and have access to the courts.

We can debate all this as a matter of public policy and law. What we should not do is sacrifice our credibility by pretending that people are being kidnapped and "disappeared" or comparing this to what is going on in HK.

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by jessaustin on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:50AM (#23940919)
Yes it's very important that CIA-sponsored protests be differentiated from non-CIA-sponsored protests! One is good and the other is bad!
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