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Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by bob33212 on Friday July 24, 2020 @08:09AM (#23938510)
I agree that within some groups like humanities departments, twitter and liberal companies the social justice movement is out of control. Just promoting a white male employee, or calling the police in a black person you see commiting a crime would make you fear for your job in some of those circles.

On the other side there was a member of Congress who called a female member of Congress a "fucking bitch" and also the president has said plenty of sexist and racist things recently without either person losing their job.

The fact that both of these can exist in the same country is the troubling thing to me. They not even remotely trying to understand each other.

Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by devdas on Friday July 24, 2020 @09:30AM (#23939224)
Calling the cops has turned out to be a death sentence for Black people too often.
Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by steveeq1 on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:36AM (#23940014)
Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by 0xB31B1B on Friday July 24, 2020 @03:01PM (#23943259)
BLM isn't specifically about white people killing black people, its about the systemic disadvantage of black people in the US. The US had segregationist senators until the 2000s [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond], San Leandro California, a bay area suburb where lots of folks in on this board live, had an FBI injunction in the 80's because they still had segregationist housing policy. Our communities now are more segregated today than they were in 1890. Modern medicine has an insane mount of racial bias baked into it today [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2021693]. Everything from illness diagnosis to painkiller prescription, to prenatal care is very much tilted against black people getting equivalent treatment to white people. This is due to the bias of caregivers at point of care. The whole point is that race matters, we need to respect that, and understand that.
Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by bob33212 on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:56AM (#23940242)
I don't think your are well informed here. They are protesting the systemic racism that makes some cops feel like they can get away with leaving their knee on a black man's neck for 8 minutes killing him.

Maybe you don't think that systemic racism is a major problem or maybe you think that people should focus on other issues instead? But your graph is incorrect.

Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by steveeq1 on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:03AM (#23940316)
I feel that the "systemic racist" is overplayed, yes. And the graph is sourced.
Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by bob33212 on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:15AM (#23940471)
Neither of those sources prove that BLM is only about white on black murder. Check out this source if you are interested in learning about the goals of BLM https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
Re:The Four Quadrants of Conformism by defnotashton2 on Friday July 24, 2020 @12:37PM (#23941525)
But it's nuanced and more than can be defined on a page with vast sub cultures and groups all lobbying for power.

As is any social movement, I think there are some problems inherent with it, like the inability to criticize aspects of the movement without being considered a racist.