Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched competing products

Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by throwawaybkhv on Thursday July 23, 2020 @09:50PM (#23934851)

some1 with the right access to the kms service could change a key policy to allow access to a bad guy. in theory. bcuz some1 has to have access to key policies since customers lock themselves out of their keys all the time.

but no 1 can export the private key itself. and key policy changes are vry heavily audited by aws (and can be by the customer, too). this is all proven by the 3rd party audits aws receives

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Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by yandie on Friday July 24, 2020 @01:32PM (#23942203)

Yes, they can. However, that will leave their trails in their KMS service CloudTrail - unless they manage to exploit CloudTrail as well. That's a lot of barrier to bypass, especially because accessing all these services require you to be in the correct permission group with a hardware MFA token.

Somebody can access the key hardware but they can't extract the actual key out of that. However, I've never met anyone with that level of access - and AFAIK you have to go through various security clearance and approval before such human intervention is permitted.

There's no such thing as perfect security - but KMS is as solid as I can see with centralized key management at the moment. And customer can roll out their own key server as well that is managed in your own data center.

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