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Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by bitL on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:19PM (#23933194)
London is notorious for low SWEng salaries; you might not have any other choice than to contract somebody in Ukraine who didn't escape somewhere else if your own employees get higher paid remote gigs in the US...
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by movedx on Thursday July 23, 2020 @07:00PM (#23933714)
> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries

I was actually going to challenge this before I did a bit of research and discovered you're right - the average wage for a software engineer is £47,500 (https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-it-salary). That's ugly.

I'm from Liverpool originally (live abroad now) and I have friends in Manchester earning £50-60k... in the North of England. That's a big wage in that area.

Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by jumhyn on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:03AM (#23940324)
The stat you link appears to be for "IT" jobs across all of the UK. Restricting the search to "Software Engineer" and "London"[0] bumps the number up quite a bit to £72,500 as of when I checked.

[0]: https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-software-eng...

Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by movedx on Saturday July 25, 2020 @07:34PM (#23953206)
That's a good catch. I hadn't realised it was targeting the country because I specifically searched for London. Silly me.

72k in London isn't a lot :)

Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by drexlspivey on Thursday July 23, 2020 @08:26PM (#23934317)
That's for IT though? Software engineer average is £72500 based on your link
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by rootusrootus on Friday July 24, 2020 @01:36AM (#23936102)
Anecdotally, the one senior dev we have on my team from London makes mid/upper 40s. I was astounded when I found that out.
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by disgruntledphd2 on Friday July 24, 2020 @04:40AM (#23937162)
Yeah, even both Google and FB pay engineers pretty terribly in London. I was once asked to move there, and I refused unless they accounted for cost of living changes. They didn't, so I stayed working at my original office.
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by x87678r on Thursday July 23, 2020 @08:34PM (#23934372)
> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries

With the banks and big tech, I'm pretty sure it has the highest paying SWE salaries in Europe.

Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by bitL on Thursday July 23, 2020 @10:22PM (#23935026)
Facebook London rarely gives 100k+ base. Compare that to SFBA.
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by disgruntledphd2 on Friday July 24, 2020 @04:41AM (#23937167)
I would have said 90-100 at E5, right? The stock grants are pretty terrible too (relative to the Bay Area, at least).
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by PunchTornado on Friday July 24, 2020 @02:21AM (#23936385)
That's Zurich