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Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by toomuchtodo on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:19PM (#23933187)
Fringe benefits should always be expected to be transient (meals, commute transportation), and it isn’t wise to include them in total comp calculations (as they’re easier to do away with than your comp).
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by bradlys on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:22PM (#23933243)
>Fringe benefits should always be expected to be transient (meals, commute transportation), and it isn’t wise to include them in total comp calculations (as they’re easier to do away with than your comp).

Yet places like Google would argue for them as part of their TC. The companies that tend to offer these benefits don't usually get rid of them until they're going out of business...

Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by jeffbee on Thursday July 23, 2020 @08:09PM (#23934235)
Nobody in the management of a company like Google would ever breathe a word about meals and transportation being part of comp, because if they are part of comp then they need to pay taxes on them. The two companies where I worked that had expensive on-campus meals both had systematic approaches devised by corporate lawyers to make sure that meals did not appear to be compensation.
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by toomuchtodo on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:28PM (#23933335)
It’s your job as an employee to not drink the kool aid and to properly value benefits provided, regardless of how they’re marketed. Cash is king, everything else is window dressing.
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by kinkrtyavimoodh on Thursday July 23, 2020 @07:28PM (#23933950)
No one is drinking any KoolAid. I care about the fact that I don't have to go through the cognitive load of figuring out every meal. This is a benefit I personally experience and so I factor it in my analysis. I don't care how my employer reports it in their taxes or balance sheet.

Also, cash is king but companies can offer benefits at scale that will be much harder to access for me as an individual.

Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by ghaff on Thursday July 23, 2020 @08:50PM (#23934476)
Mostly healthcare in the US. And a few other things that are tax-advantaged by being benefits from an employer (like 401(k) matching). I'm not sure that I can think of much else, other than negotiated travel and other discounts--which I don't really consider "benefits"--that are harder for me to access as an individual.
Re:Who still needs the office? U.S. companies start cutting ... by rightbyte on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:57PM (#23933678)
Sure but it is not just the $ sum but also $/h and $/sweat and tear. Having eg. parking lots even if you arrive at 10 aclock is also a big deal.