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Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by paulgb on Thursday July 23, 2020 @02:40PM (#23930709)
Lots of anon accounts (reasonably) in this thread, so I want to back up as a non-anon former Googler that your experience matches mine. It wasn't "ignore patents", it was "don't look up patents so you aren't influenced by them".
Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by abfan1127 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @06:32PM (#23933393)
I worked at Medtronic and currently work at Qualcomm. Both companies had policies matching this. Don't search patents so you are not influenced by them.
Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by jbay808 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @07:36PM (#23934009)
Since when did that matter in patent law? Patents are public domain, and ignorance of a patent is not a defense against having infringed. Since at least 2012, the US has had a first-to-file policy instead of first-to-invent.

There's no legal reason to worry about being influenced by a patent. The only concern might be boxing your creativity where you can't think of alternative solutions to a problem once you've seen one solution. That doesn't seem like a strong enough reason for a blanket policy.

IANAL but this confuses me.

Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by jburgess777 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @07:57PM (#23934152)
What I was told is that if you research the patent and aware of its existence then you may be guilty of willful enfringement with treble the normal penalties:

https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2016/06/supreme-court-u...

https://www.ip-watch.org/2016/07/26/us-high-court-restores-t...

Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by jacques_chester on Thursday July 23, 2020 @11:00PM (#23935257)
More precisely, a standing policy that researching patents is forbidden is prima facie evidence that your employees couldn't have possibly known about an existing patent. That means that a plaintiff suing for willful infringement will need to find evidence that someone went out of their way to ignore the policy. That might be quite difficult.

(Of course: not a lawyer, this is not legal advice)

Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by jbay808 on Saturday July 25, 2020 @02:30PM (#23951375)
Wow, I'm amazed that this would hold up. That's like saying that if I drive with a blindfold on, I couldn't possibly have willfully caused an accident because, as a matter of policy, I couldn't have been aware of the other cars on the road.
Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by jacques_chester on Saturday July 25, 2020 @08:38PM (#23953487)
A more accurate analogy is a company policy that strictly prohibits driving.
Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by abfan1127 on Thursday July 23, 2020 @08:50PM (#23934474)
you're right, its the creativity and alternative solutions.
Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by altgoogler on Friday July 24, 2020 @08:25AM (#23938632)
Another anon Googler here (with a slightly older account).

Your experience matches mine. I think it might even be somewhere in the mandatory periodic training.

Doing a patent search as a software engineer can only hurt you. Better just to route any questions to product counsel.

Re:Amazon met with startups about investing, then launched c... by mcqueenjordan on Friday July 24, 2020 @03:43AM (#23936802)
Xoogler and current AWS and both companies have a "do not open or read patents" policy.