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Re:Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing c... by _-david-_ on Thursday July 23, 2020 @12:02AM (#23924068)
>The explicit purpose of a uniform is to associate an individual with an organization (e.g. the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Prison, etc) that vests them with specific authorities - for example, the authority to detain and charge citizens with crimes.

Nice job changing the goal posts.

>These actors in Portland do not wear patches, badges, names, or other identifying features that associate them with any authority.

Are you sure? I have heard there actually are badges on the uniforms. I have only seen pictures and videos on my phone so I could not tell personally if that is the case.

Will you please provide a video / picture of the uniforms?

> Camouflage clothing can be purchased by anyone with the Internet and a credit card. A badge number can’t. This distinction is important to maintain a free society.

Anybody can buy a fake police uniform and badge as well. Amazon has multiple for cheap.

I doubt I would know a real police uniform from a fake one.

Re:Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing c... by germinalphrase on Thursday July 23, 2020 @08:46AM (#23926731)
> Nice job changing the goal posts.

Hardly. You contend that these actors are wearing uniforms. I argue that camouflage is generic and doesn’t serve the purpose of a uniform as it doesn’t indicate under what authority they serve.

> Are you sure? I have heard there actually are badges on the uniforms. I have only seen pictures and videos on my phone so I could not tell personally if that is the case.

It is being widely reported as such, yes. Additionally, new federal legislation has been put forward just in the last week to require federal officers to wear identification in the future.

> Anybody can buy a fake police uniform and badge as well. Amazon has multiple for cheap. I doubt I would know a real police uniform from a fake one.

This is precisely my point.

Re:Trump administration establishes $75M quantum computing c... by _-david-_ on Thursday July 23, 2020 @11:09AM (#23928131)
>It is being widely reported as such, yes. Additionally, new federal legislation has been put forward just in the last week to require federal officers to wear identification in the future.

I'll ask again. Do you have a video or picture? I have heard that these uniforms do in fact have a badge and identification on them.

Allegedly these officers did identify themselves when they made the arrests but due to the sounds (like people shouting at the officers) we cannot hear it on tape.

> This is precisely my point.

Every uniform and badge can be copied and sold to other people. If it becomes illegal to have a fake uniform people could still buy them illegally. Cops will also sometimes sell their old vehicles so even if they roll up in a police car you wouldn't know. It would also be possible to paint a car to look like a police car as well.

It sounds like it is impossible to ever arrest somebody without you complaining that there is no way to know if the person is legit. What is your solution to this problem? Never arrest anybody?