News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Lego Helicopter Kit Cancelled 10 Days Before Release by codezero on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @01:33PM (#23919447)
We don't draw the line for outrage, the outraged do, and we should just listen. Listening doesn't mean acting though, but until you listen you're not really going to have a clear understanding of what to respond to in the first place.

The google search for coast guard osprey shows a lot of remote control models, not an actual functioning unit, what am I missing?

I don't feel that you are engaging in good spirit.

Re:Lego Helicopter Kit Cancelled 10 Days Before Release by ganoushoreilly on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @02:02PM (#23919780)
But we did draw a line rather than listen. The action of canceling a product because of one groups position and fear of the mob, is forcing an action.

Both the US and UK Coast Guards have osprey deployed for a myriad of reasons. The largest barrier to more widespread deployment is their cost.

As for engaging in good spirit, I would argue the same for you. You seem to be drawing a line for "my outrage" and not listening. See how easy it is to flip flop and try to make someone else out as the bad guy? That's not fair to you, nor to I.

Is your argument that using the Boeing name supports war through purchases? Or is it that the Osprey represent war? Maybe that's where we're not seeing eye to eye here. Is the same argument not applicable to support commercial air travel on Boeing, Airbus, and other companies? All of which build craft and have derived technologies from military craft? In this instance with Boeing, flying on their craft Supports them in the same exact manner?

Lego builds locking plastic toys. The Osprey model, is a non combat designed product model. It does not represent guns, explosives, etc. in any way shape or form. It's simply a Boeing designed craft that is leveraged by the military. It follows all of their existing (though you could argue contradictory) standards. As i've stated, if you don't want kids to have an apache, and Lego has taken that stance, we won't have one. Clearly there is a market here for people and enthusiast that support not only the Osprey, but the concept behind engineering marvels.

What you haven't explained is just because we listen does that mean we have to action? In an instance like this, where it's not forced on people to buy it, can't people vote with their wallet? Where does one groups rights stand over another groups? What if I hold the beliefs that modern medical science is a farce, does that mean that a company should buckle to my position and stop producing medical related toys? No, it shouldn't. This is an example of a small mob of people trying to exert their opinions wether supportive or not, and that's dangerous. If you truly believe in listening we have to do the same for all. Equality is everyone having a right to their voice, equality of outcome is impossible.

This same narrative is being used for all sorts of products and technologies. AI is a big example of where these biases of "my truth is greater than your truth" can be weaponized and used against the very people in the manner in which they think they're preventing things.

Re:Lego Helicopter Kit Cancelled 10 Days Before Release by codezero on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @02:18PM (#23919956)
Show me the US Osprey in service operated and owned by the Coast Guard. You've made the assertion multiple times in the thread, and your argument seems based on it, so it's not worth engaging until you can show you're willing to invest the effort in the conversation.
Re:Lego Helicopter Kit Cancelled 10 Days Before Release by codezero on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @10:19PM (#23923565)
Re: not writing “edit”

Learn the rules of trolling people in comments on the internet, you should be frantically refreshing your browser tabs to see all updates, and taking screenshots to make sure you have receipts.

I can’t help you with your LEGO brick problem, but if you need help learning how to be a better troll, and you are interested in subscribing to the “Punch Up” philosophy that I offer, please let me know,