Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by sujinge9 on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:28PM
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Why would firing someone make you feel like reparative measures have been taken?
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Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by psim1 on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:41PM
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Reparations would show an actual sense of responsibility. Firing someone would be appropriate if they were negligent. Other measures might be more appropriate. Is it enough that any time there's a Cloudflare incident, all we get are lengthy blog posts and sorries from Cloudflare?
Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by axaxs on Monday July 20, 2020 @03:38PM
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Firing people for making mistakes is a great way to watch productivity dive. The easiest way to prevent mistakes is to do nothing at all.
Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by psim1 on Monday July 20, 2020 @04:20PM
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I understand the point being made here, but what are those affected supposed to take away? Cloudflare made a mistake that caused (x millions of dollars of lost online commerce revenues, y number of missed telehealth sessions, etc.) and since we do not punish mistakes, nothing was done. Sorry everyone!
Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by axaxs on Monday July 20, 2020 @04:33PM
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Understood. Typically, as a company, you write -
1) what went wrong
2) how did it go wrong
and
3) what you have or will put in place to prevent it from ever happening again
It's a learning process for all involved, really.
From the affected parties point of view, well, they should diversify their network a bit better. End users should hold those companies feet to the fire, not Cloudflare's.
Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by gizmo385 on Monday July 20, 2020 @01:24PM
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Firing people for making mistakes is just going to foster a culture of secrecy and shame. Being so quick to fire is not how you retain talent and it isn't how you foster a healthy, blameless development culture in your workplace.
Re:Turns out half the internet has a single-point-of-failure...
by yjftsjthsd-h on Monday July 20, 2020 @04:43PM
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> Firing someone would be appropriate if they were negligent
Maybe, but making mistakes is far from negligence. Besides which, if a single person can accidentally break your system, at least at Cloudflare's scale, that's an organizational failure, not a personal failure.