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Re:Fact-check of viral climate misinformation quietly remove... by adrianN on Monday July 20, 2020 @08:56AM (#23897306)
The sensible thing to do when the science that says that we need to stop producing CO2 as quickly as possible is clear but the solution space is not figured out quite so well is to set up a cap-and-trade system for emissions and adjust the cap to whatever the climate scientists think is reasonable for the warming goal we're trying to achieve. This has been known for a long time among economists; there even was a Nobel price for this.

There are also many steps that we can take right now that are completely uncontroversial. For example requiring proper insulation for all new buildings and starting a program to retrofit existing buildings.

Re:Fact-check of viral climate misinformation quietly remove... by AstralStorm on Monday July 20, 2020 @10:11AM (#23898020)
What happens with trade systems is that they get gamed to the point of uselessness. They're implemented already and patently worthless, because the price would have to be truly high to matter.

This is not the way and a delay in implementing proper controls nobody can afford.

Re:Fact-check of viral climate misinformation quietly remove... by DuskStar on Monday July 20, 2020 @09:46AM (#23897746)
Isn't Cap+Trade just worse at everything (except optics) than an appropriate carbon tax?
Re:Fact-check of viral climate misinformation quietly remove... by AstralStorm on Monday July 20, 2020 @10:12AM (#23898025)
Tax is not good enough either, because of immediate gaming of "tax breaks".

Directly mandate use of clean solutions. No trade, just cap and regulate. Hard deadlines and checks. Including on outsourced deployments to close that loophole.

Re:Fact-check of viral climate misinformation quietly remove... by bryanlarsen on Monday July 20, 2020 @10:22AM (#23898114)
IMO, regulations are easier to gamify and capture than simple taxes are.
Re:Fact-check of viral climate misinformation quietly remove... by adrianN on Monday July 20, 2020 @09:59AM (#23897886)
I don't see a big difference between the two, but I'm not an economist. Why do you think that a tax is strictly better?