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Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by arianvanp on Monday July 20, 2020 @03:53AM (#23895660)
I don't understand where minio suddenly comes from?

Minio is barely documented. I had to ask in Slack to interpret what it meant when minio said "your cluster is 5 red and 7 yellow" as the colours aren't event documented.

Every minio cluster I hosted had dataloss. Each one has lead to a reported issue on their GitHub that hasn't been closed to date. Nothing about recovery is documented. Documentation is slim in general. Really confused why you're naming it next to ZFS which is sublimely documented and withstood the test of time.

I'd advise something battletested through time like Ceph for object storage instead.

Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by devonkim on Monday July 20, 2020 @10:19AM (#23898099)
I'm super confused how anyone could recommend Minio for the foundation of a production system as well. I've understood it to be primarily for development purposes and have used it for some local mock tests for S3 compatibility behind a firewall or to simulate error test cases more reliably in my applications.

Even Ceph has its warts for distributed object storage as does basically... anything in existence worth considering that's OSS-ish (GlusterFS, HDFS, Lustre) but comparing Minio to ZFS is confusing given how drastically different in purpose, functionality, and engineering hardening has happened between the two projects. With that said, the AWS S3 team really is impressive in what they've built out and deserves more shout-outs from people outside Amazon.

Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by wfn on Monday July 20, 2020 @05:57AM (#23896314)
Could you expand more re: your minio experience? We're about to enter production with minio as our S3 interface-providing file storage system, and have found documentation to be sufficient.

However, I'm slightly concerned that we haven't tested it enough, and that doc and support may prove to be lacking (like in your case) when we hit edge cases and failure scenarios.

Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by ddorian43 on Monday July 20, 2020 @06:31AM (#23896466)
I'm checking it out too.

No LTS version. Bugs will be fixed in a new version, which may include new bugs. Some upgrades need full cluster restart. If you ask too many question you may get "it's better start a subscription".

Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by seqizz on Monday July 20, 2020 @10:38AM (#23898265)
We've been running for about a year now and had zero problems with it. (~20TB total, few single instances, serving as S3 backend to Restic - handmade HA - backup service)
Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by ddorian43 on Monday July 20, 2020 @10:58AM (#23898450)
What do you mean with "handmade HA" ?
Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by infogulch on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:12PM (#23899238)
Perhaps a high-availability system they made themselves?
Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by ddorian43 on Monday July 20, 2020 @12:39PM (#23899487)
That's the whole point of using it in the first place. And the solomon reed encoding/replication.
Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by thr0w3345 on Monday July 20, 2020 @06:38AM (#23896499)
I highly recommend you look at leofs instead β€” it’s been absolutely rock solid for us.
Re:In Praise of ZFS on Linux's ZED 'ZFS Event Daemon' by craigyk on Monday July 20, 2020 @01:12PM (#23899851)
It's a bit on a non-sequitur, but I am also looking at using MinIO as a S3 interface to a ZFS filesystem. Would be interested to hear from others about this use case for MinIO and possible alternatives.