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Re:Lies, damn lies, and front-end tracking by phendrenad2 on Saturday July 18, 2020 @04:30AM (#23879984)
Companies that keep their JS footprint small will have faster-loading pages, and that translates to non-trivial increase in profits. Sadly, people running businesses don't understand this, and tech teams certainly aren't going to voluntarily make their jobs harder without word coming down from above. So do your company a favor - educate those in charge about how much page load time matters.
Re:Lies, damn lies, and front-end tracking by Normal_gaussian on Saturday July 18, 2020 @06:00AM (#23880318)
This isn't strictly true.

Most B2B SaaS's, which I would bet is the most common front end developer on HN, do not see significant benefits from fast loading. They will see issues with slow loading, and they can't ignore bundle size, but the benefits to development speed from a pure JS front-end from this kinds of sites is realised as value by the client.

B2C SaaS, and you start to see a different story, largely due to the wider variety of devices and more mobile friendly focus.

Non SaaS, product sales or news focused businesses facing joe public are likely as you say.

Re:Lies, damn lies, and front-end tracking by MaxBarraclough on Saturday July 18, 2020 @07:59AM (#23880795)
> tech teams certainly aren't going to voluntarily make their jobs harder without word coming down from above

SourceHut does this. It's not a categorical impossibility, but I agree devs are generally going to be inclined to continue with 'business as usual'.

Does it really make dev work that much harder though? I'm not really qualified to comment. Presumably it's going to simplify things in at least some ways.

> do your company a favor - educate those in charge about how much page load time matters.

There you have it - the people making the case for less JavaScript may be the devs themselves.

Re:Lies, damn lies, and front-end tracking by conjectures on Saturday July 18, 2020 @05:51AM (#23880277)
Amazing that this isn't universally known at this point.
Re:Lies, damn lies, and front-end tracking by smart_jackal on Saturday July 18, 2020 @07:35AM (#23880687)
Unfortunately, Amazon S3 and Akamai CDNs will come to their rescue in still making their pages load faster. As a plebeian, all my efforts at keeping my pages light will go in vain as I simply can't afford the CDN infrastructure of these tech giants.
Re:Lies, damn lies, and front-end tracking by MaxBarraclough on Saturday July 18, 2020 @08:01AM (#23880804)
Don't today's bloated, slow-loading pages already use these CDNs?