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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by treis on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:14PM (#23874985)
> the extremely low rate of teacher pay (for a job that requires a Master's degree) limits the pool of available teachers greatly.

Teacher pay is not extremely low. The median teacher salary is usually pretty close to the median salary for the state. Plus they get good benefits, a pension, and much more time off than other jobs. It's a solid middle class life.

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by Kapura on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:30PM (#23875155)
ok thank you for explaining my family's lived experience to me, the person whose family's lived experience it is. Maybe later you could swing by and tell me if I'm finding the sun hot or not.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by treis on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:37PM (#23875232)
Your family's lived experience doesn't change the statistics.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by Kapura on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:55PM (#23875427)
Ah, statistics. A notoriously accurate and complete way of understanding how other people live.
Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by jimbokun on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:29PM (#23875893)
Yes, it is.

Anecdotes tell you very little about the bigger picture.

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by hysan on Friday July 17, 2020 @08:07PM (#23877571)
Ehh... those statistics are often skewed. First hit on search for elementary school teacher median salary comparison[1]:

> ...median annual income of $58,230.

> This number would be above the average salary in the U.S., but it's the median of an awfully wide range of salaries. Elementary school teachers in the bottom 10% of income only made around $37,780, while those in the highest 10% could make as much as $95,270.

You then scroll down to the section on per-state numbers and see the wide gaps between states. You also see that this article, like others, suddenly jump to using mean instead of median.

I usually don't play this card, but show the data. You are likely only looking at a specific statistical lens that does not paint a real picture.

[1]: https://www.niche.com/blog/teacher-salaries-in-america/

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by treis on Friday July 17, 2020 @08:24PM (#23877703)
In all states median teacher salary is higher than median income. Highest gap is 35k in New York and lowest gap is Oklahoma at 5.7k.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/careers/2018/05/16/stat...

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by kodt on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:22PM (#23875738)
Is it close to the median salary for a job that requires a bachelors and also has a significant number if workers with Masters degrees?

The fact that people constantly compare teaching salaries to non-professional jobs and minimum wage workers is very telling.

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by jarpadat on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:38PM (#23876115)
The median educational attainment is "some college". In my state we require teachers to hold a degree and do some postgraduate work, so by definition it isn't a "median" position. That's before we get into it recently becoming a dangerous job