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Re:Companies made millions building unemployment websites th... by h0l0cube on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:35PM (#23865627)
> acceptance criteria, testing requirements, and verification / support / warranty detailed

Some orgs just don't have the in-house capability to do this, so they seek a consulting firm... oh wait.

Edit:

I guess the strategy is to hire technical staff, keep them around a few years until you can be sure they can deliver on projects and understand your existing systems and processes, and then embark on the larger project to transform those systems and processes.

Alternatively, shop around to find a consulting firm that is motivated to have good long-term outcomes. Probably a smaller operation, that has good word-of-mouth reputation, but doesn't have an established brand to fall back on.

Re:Companies made millions building unemployment websites th... by aplummer on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:39PM (#23865653)
Yep on a 100 million dollar budget you need to hire people to manage software delivery on your side and can never absolve end responsibility is definitely my point.

I’m not describing how the world should work, just how it does when outsourcing IT to consultancies (which can work anywhere from successfully to very unsuccessfully)

Re:Companies made millions building unemployment websites th... by aplummer on Thursday July 16, 2020 @09:00PM (#23865814)
To your edit:

A good strategy is to hire a team, get a few consultants who have literally built the same system down the road, and use that blended team until 2.X release.

That way you a team that has made a thing already (and often consultants are just as passionate about their work too!) ready to build a better 2.0, plus you keep responsibility and control.

Re:Companies made millions building unemployment websites th... by h0l0cube on Friday July 17, 2020 @06:42AM (#23869164)
> A good strategy is to hire a team

Some orgs may not know how to hire. I think here, competent (and well connected) consultants can help, and maybe source from their own networks, but we're back to the dilemma of which consultants to trust. And let's not speak of recruitment agencies :)

Re:Companies made millions building unemployment websites th... by harperlee on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:47AM (#23868900)
Or hire 2: one for all those things, another one for actually delivering technical work.

Hint: the rivalry will make it also expensive (extra meetings, defensive bullshit). But you will end up with what you wanted, at a price.