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Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by totalZero on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:00PM (#23864276)
I mean, there's obviously a problem here.
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Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by dang on Friday July 17, 2020 @01:53AM (#23867502)
Would you please stop posting flamebait to HN? We've warned you twice before.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by powersnail on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:09PM (#23864383)
The justice system is working as intended.

The prison (or juvenile hall) most certainly isn't.

Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by fuvkthisguy on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:09PM (#23864374)
Okay, but just so we're clear, what is concerning here isn't the system, it's the morality of what happened and how/why it happened.

Wait, no - it is about the system. There is obviously a problem if this is one of the acceptable outcomes.

Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by cryptoz on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:04PM (#23864324)
The system is working rather well because an innocent kid has been hurt? What kind of system is that? That's a cruel and horrible 'system' and needs to be completely rethought.
Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by RIMR on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:06PM (#23864349)
The fact that a child fell victim to this kind of calculated medical misconduct in the first place is pretty clear evidence that the system is not "working as intended".

How often does stuff like this happen, but we don't hear about it? Jails and prisons are human rights black holes.

Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by eCa on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:16PM (#23864469)
”I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win.”

If there were no problem the kid would have nothing to sue over.

If your computer crashes but your backups work, you still have a problem.

This is the backup system working.

Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by fwip on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:07PM (#23864355)
If a prescription like this goes through the entire system and is given to a minor for nearly two weeks - there's definitely a problem there.

I know that there's a lot of systems out there that will automatically flag for "suspicious" or mistaken prescriptions, whenever medicine that is not associated with any diagnoses is prescribed. Surely a basic thing to do in a case like this would be to forward it to another doctor to double-check.

I know several trans women who have had trouble getting their estrogen prescriptions covered by insurance, even with medical diagnoses. Because they've got a system in place that says "Hey, why are you giving estrogen to somebody legally male? That doesn't seem right."

Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by cryptoz on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:03PM (#23864317)
> This is how the system works.

The system isn't working when innocent people get hurt. If that is the 'system' then the 'system' needs to be torn down and rebuilt. It's the same issue with deregulation

> It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice like this.

I really doubt this is true. This is defeatist and assumes that there is no possibility to improvement anywhere that would reduce patient harm by malpractice. I'm sure that's not true.

> I see no problem here.

The innocent being hurt is a problem.

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Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by fwip on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:02PM (#23864302)
That's not how diagnoses for gender dysphoria work.
Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by beervirus on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:06PM (#23864340)
This isn't normally how ODD diagnoses go either though, so who knows.
Re:Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says by verytrivial on Thursday July 16, 2020 @06:23PM (#23864538)
One would hope not, but there's e.g. a BBS Newsnight report among other sources that says the diagnosis and treatment protocols aren't as rigorous as they could be.