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Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by floatingatoll on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:20PM (#23852971)
Promoting, praising, or otherwise endorsing the kind of reaction you state is inexcusable in IT Operations. Your unstated assumptions-by-framing are:

1) A single person is responsible for the flaw.

2) A single person is either already under performance review or committed gross neglect of duties.

3) The above single person will be terminated rather than retrained.

If this is how you would speak about your own employees during a security incident, your business deserves to fail.

If this is how you expect to be treated by your employer during a security incident, you should seek employment elsewhere.

Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by VRay on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @07:39PM (#23853844)
That dude is talking the exact way a lot of execs think. If this is due to one person's screw-up, that person is going to get railroaded out of the company's back door.

I saw this happen before. A newish IT guy accidentally deployed a script to a few hundred machines that took down the whole worldwide intranet for a multi-billion dollar juggernaut for an hour or so. He was supposedly forgiven, but ended up on a "performance improvement plan" where he had a bunch of impossible tasks, and every shortcoming was documented to use against him until he was fired.

I wish things worked the way you think they do, or if not that way, I wish they'd at least just shitcan the dude on the spot (with a few months' severance) and be done with it.

Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by corobo on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @08:41PM (#23854371)
If you ever get put on a PIP for a reason that's obviously to get rid of you as fast as possible, have a quiet word with someone in power and float the idea of a settlement agreement.

You might even get a free laptop out of it..

(This comment is only considering employment in the UK)

Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by mc32 on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @10:38PM (#23855137)
In the US it's true companies get indemnity for this, but they also usually have better lawyers than you do, so most will play hardball and you lose and then when a company does a background search on you and see litigiousness... it's better to take your losses and move on.
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by dvtrn on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @08:17PM (#23854179)
I don’t know what form it would or even should take but these kinds of “Performance Improvement Plans” where the person being coached is set up for failure needs some kind of alternative that incentivizes employers to either responsibly dismiss the person or otherwise be genuine with “performance improvement”.

These tactics are hard to prove if someone goes to court over it (probably) but are just as hard to recover emotionally from and can stunt a person all the way to their next job or many.

Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by mc32 on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @10:41PM (#23855156)
So when you see those impossible job descriptions that no one can possibly meet, that is your cover. It's not fair, but sometimes you just don't fit in and the team has to get rid of the fly in the ointment.
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by mdpye on Thursday July 16, 2020 @07:57AM (#23858062)
While I agree 100% with your response in general, Twitter are suggesting this is an inside job (the "social engineering" line looks like a cover for "someone has been paid for internal access"). If that's true, then someone is definitely getting fired today, and a whole lot more than fired to follow!
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by floatingatoll on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:27PM (#23865573)
If confirmed, that would definitely be an appropriate scenario for someone to be fired.
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by kgraves on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:31PM (#23853110)
jeez, they said it's just a joke...
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by floatingatoll on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:38PM (#23853195)
They used the edit function to walk back their comment as a 'joke' after my post was submitted, and managed to make things worse in the process.

Would you joke about firing someone for a mistake during an interview? I would consider that a dealbreaker if I were interviewing someone, as in "this interview is over, go home".

Do you consider HN an appropriate forum for pithy one-liner jokes that do not contribute to the discussion? Reconsider.

Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by aaron695 on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @11:42PM (#23855519)
So CEOs should never be fired for IT fuckups even with gross negligence and it seriously hurts someone?
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by floatingatoll on Thursday July 16, 2020 @08:30PM (#23865588)
It depends, same as it does for an employee. Is there a history of negligence? Did they refuse to consider warnings of risk that were presented? Did they or their peers brief their management on the risk?
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by secondcoming on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:46PM (#23853289)
Calm down
Re:Live BTC transactions in Twitter hack by VectorLock on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @06:43PM (#23853261)
So saying one person should be fired is not okay, but saying a whole business should be fired is okay?