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Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by alexfromapex on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:14PM (#23837216)
Banning lobbying which is going to be a difficult battle for sure
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by grandmczeb on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:19PM (#23837285)
“Lobbying” as the reflexive reason for all political ills is tiresome, especially considering aggressive lobbying by universities is likely what caused this reversal.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by refurb on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @06:18PM (#23838730)
Exactly. It’s “lobbying” when the other side does it, but “standing up for what’s right” when my side does it.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by idrios on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:55PM (#23837731)
That it's tiresome does not invalidate the argument. In fact, if the policy change was made because of university lobbying and not because of the public outcry, that's downright depressing. It means we still had no control over this outcome, we're just lucky that some people in power agreed with us here.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by grandmczeb on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @05:27PM (#23838138)
One way public outcry is expressed is through lobbying. Honestly, I think the issue here is that people mistakenly believe lobbying consists of shadowy groups slipping bribes under the table to elected officials when in reality it’s just people coming together to advocate for issues they care about.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by alexfromapex on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @06:19PM (#23838738)
So you're actually opting into your democracy being a plutocracy because it's tiresome?
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by grandmczeb on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @07:42PM (#23853875)
Have you ever called an elected official to express support for a bill? Congratulations! You're now an official member of the Plutocratic Lobbyist Upper Class(TM). Branded monocles and top hats are available for purchase on our website.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by charonn0 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:38PM (#23837517)
I'm pretty sure the lawsuits had more to do with it than anything else.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by grandmczeb on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @05:05PM (#23837861)
Lawsuits are one facet of lobbying.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by newacct583 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:38PM (#23837520)
Literally no one was "lobbying" for this policy. This was a nativist reflex, designed to seize an opportunity to expel a few foreigners who would otherwise not be removable. It's very much in keeping with the anti-immigration stances the administration has taken in other areas.
Re:U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student v... by X6S1x6Okd1st on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:25PM (#23837362)
Why do you think lobbying had anything to do with this?

I interpreted this as mostly driven by the nativism of Trump et al.