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Re:Do journalists pay too much attention to Twitter? (2018) by Robotbeat on Monday July 13, 2020 @11:30PM (#23828207)
I think it's worse than that. What Twitter especially does is make it easy to find people who are the worst possible version of those you disagree with. Every "nobody REALLY thinks that" is easy to disprove (although still generally accurate!)... You find ACTUAL neoNazis. ACTUAL tankies. ACTUAL fill in the blanks.

That's what radicalizes people. That, and the easy ability to mob folks who don't toe the line on whatever issue. The most disgusting takes on both sides are amplified, not blocked. And even when blocked, still screen-capped. You see the most unreasonable perspectives amplified but the broad middle folk, or those who have legitimate points, either driven off the platform or who just aren't amplified.

EDIT:I know this is usually frowned upon on HN, but I must ask: Why the downvotes?

Re:Do journalists pay too much attention to Twitter? (2018) by yodelshady on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:36AM (#23829740)
Don't know why, it's a very sensible post to me.

I'm not sure echo chambers are bad - I like the "warrens and plazas" idea. If ideas really are a market - or more relevantly, policy is a market - we'd never buy anything if we only had half-baked prototypes to choose from.

That said, twitter really makes me appreciate traditional politics.

Party states in their manifesto they value x, y, z Party representative does something that is consistent, or not, with that (individuals get to decide this, even if the media get to present "an angle").

Some "undesirable group" (Neo-nazis, tankies, etc) may vote for that party, but they don't control the message. Or if they do, the party leader has failed.

Twitter politics, by contrast, is built on the fundamental attribution error. If you don't take the most charitable interpretation of my side, and the worst interpretation of theirs, you're my enemy.

Re:Do journalists pay too much attention to Twitter? (2018) by PaulKeeble on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:28AM (#23829423)
Both sides think they are arguing with the reasonable people on the other side of the debate,but in actuality the extremists are posting a lot more content than most users and they are get amplified as they get more "engagement". Engagement is a terrible measure for a single tweet in the nieve way because it amplifies really awful things that produce anger.

What reddit, twitter even youtube get wrong is that mixed up and down votes might mean very engaging but it does not mean good wholesome healthy content, infact it definitely means the opposite. If you just amplify engagement as they do today it might bring more clicks but it hurts society and builds extremists.

Re:Do journalists pay too much attention to Twitter? (2018) by mrec on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @05:31AM (#23830017)
"Nutpicking" is a very satisfying (and much easier to type) term for this phenomenon.