Re:Apple Silicon: The Passing of Wintel
by ladyanita22 on Sunday July 12, 2020 @06:31PM
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What do you mean? This is just about nm?
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Re:Apple Silicon: The Passing of Wintel
by ben-schaaf on Sunday July 12, 2020 @07:44PM
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AMD, Apple, NVIDIA and those AWS chips use TSMCs 7nm process node which has a ~50% efficiency advantage over Intel's 14nm (the actual nm isn't comparable though).
Re:Apple Silicon: The Passing of Wintel
by formerly_proven on Sunday July 12, 2020 @07:29PM
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Debating which ISA enables higher performance designs has been shown in the last 25 years to be a lot like debating which JIT API will result in faster execution.
Re:Apple Silicon: The Passing of Wintel
by flyinglizard on Sunday July 12, 2020 @08:00PM
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No, it's also about system and memory interconnects, caches, various accelerators, core configuration, and indeed process nodes as mentioned above. I don't think there's anything inherently faster in one ISA than the other.
There can be ISA-level differences: Itanium’s VLIW structure meant a lot of memory was storing NOPs filling unused slots unless your work aligned perfectly with the CPU and you had a brilliant compiler.
These days, I think you’re right with the possible exception of density: if you have comparable resources, vector extensions, etc. an ISA which uses memory more efficiently is going to get a little more out of its cache and memory bandwidth, but that’s probably not going to be huge.
Re:Apple Silicon: The Passing of Wintel
by ladyanita22 on Monday July 13, 2020 @03:33AM
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Then I fail to understand how is Intel's perf/watt behind some ARM vendors. They probably have the best talent in the industry.