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Re:Beware of Being “Right” by themodelplumber on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:00PM (#23806925)
> come at it like a lawyer (which is what I mean by dishonest)

This seems to get more and more emotional, but even if not so, I would suggest that people who feel it's an absolute truth that every lawyer is dishonest are really doing the legal world a disservice by not at least offering training via ethics courses.

I also admit to being frustrated at the unfairness of the argument, in which I've communicated several times a point that gets at the crux of the issue: Real context and details. Both are needed.

So what happened was: I encouraged you to think about real context, and instead you added more details to the fake example, turning it into a corner case and making it an exceptional situation as opposed to a workable general example justifying absolute truth. In effect you've further marginalized the reality and utility of the absolute truth idea.

Your sense of the existence of absolute truth is apparently held hostage by unrealistic conceptual examples, turning it into a straw man, which I hope you can understand I'm not interested in debating...

Re:Beware of Being “Right” by discreteevent on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:14PM (#23807029)
There's an article linked from hn that I just read where the author says:

"There are, after all, no post-fact conversations when we talk about how to build a bridge, for example."

I don't know if I would be able to function in a world where this kind of statement had to be qualified every time. The editor of Die Zeit appears to think similarly. So it looks like there's at least three of us who think like this. But you're not alone either. Each to their own.

Re:Beware of Being “Right” by kortilla on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:53PM (#23807278)
Alas, “post-fact” itself is a bit of a straw man. “Many truths” is not the same thing as “no truths”.