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Re:Microsoft and Google collaborate to make PWAs better by rchaud on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:24PM (#23798927)
You describe the iOS app store as some kind of zen garden of curated software, when it's full off the same kind of spammy apps that pollute other app stores. When the app inventory numbers in the million plus, it is impossible for every one to be reviewed for quality, or to be distinct from others already in the store.

The purpose of the App Store was to ensure that Apple got a cut of every dollar flowing through the store. Gatekeeping quality requires more than blocking developers from uploading fart apps.

Re:Microsoft and Google collaborate to make PWAs better by arcturus17 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @04:18AM (#23800485)
Yea, some people have rose-tinted glasses when it comes to Apple.

I downloaded a simple HIIT (high-intensity interval training) timer app the other day. It's just a glorified stop timer that automatically pauses at intervals so you can do exercise-rest cycles.

I settled for the second or third most popular alternative since it was the first one that didn't have a HIIT-timer-as-a-service business model (WTF... no, I don't want to create an account for a timer app).

Still a disgusting experience. Before you start an exercise there's an obnoxious 10-second video ad playing at full blast. The interface is atrocious, too.

The app was free, so I can't complain on that front, I guess. I would pay $3-$6 flat for something like this, but herein lies the problem: I can't even find such an alternative. The results in the app store search were filled with garbage (SaaS as I mentioned, irrelevant crap, bloated "fitness assistant" apps, etc.)

I could definitely conceive this app being built as a PWA and being 100x better than many of those. For this use case I couldn't care less about PWA vs. native, both could work if done well; the point is that I really don't see what Apple's supposedly strict standards have done to protect my user experience from greedy, incompetent or careless designers and developers.

Re:Microsoft and Google collaborate to make PWAs better by millstone on Saturday July 11, 2020 @02:08AM (#23799971)
> You describe the iOS app store as some kind of zen garden of curated software, when it's full off the same kind of spammy apps that pollute other app stores

Yeah, it's disgusting.

> The purpose of the App Store was to ensure that Apple got a cut of every dollar flowing through the store

I think there were competing internal forces: a desire to milk the iPhone's success, vs something akin to an Apple retail store experience. Sadly they gave us the worst of both worlds: they freely admit shit, yet pick fights with good stuff, like Basecamp Hey mail.

It makes no sense why Apple would choose to defend this hill. Either make it a Zen garden or turn it to a web-style free-for-all.