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Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by Barrin92 on Friday July 10, 2020 @07:20PM (#23797751)
this is a pretty simple way to absolve people of responsibility. Just because an institution has compartmentalized tasks, so that every single individual team appears to do nothing wrong, doesn't mean this actually absolves individuals, because following that logic obviously nobody would ever be responsible for anything.

It's like Kierkegaard's example of the mob who collectively intimidates but every member argues they have contributed virtually nothing, and so any sort of responsibility is simply dissolved.

Anyone who is responsible needs to be aware of the holistic system that they're part of and that they are enabling rather than just their own little world. That's no excuse.

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by whatshisface on Friday July 10, 2020 @08:23PM (#23798193)
>this is a pretty simple way to absolve people of responsibility.

Consider this menu of possible ways to be associated with a human rights violation:

- Do it yourself.

- Be a part of the chain of command that ordered it.

- Be commanded by the chain of command that ordered it.

- Be part of the same organization as the one that contains the chain of command that ordered it.

- Be a member of the society that contains the organization that contains the chain of command that ordered someone to do it.

- Be a member of another society, that could have tried to stop it, but didn't.

Where do we switch from participant to accomplice to bystander to "completely uninvolved?"

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by 6510 on Saturday July 11, 2020 @01:18AM (#23799724)
That one had already been answered:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.

edit: In case it isn't clear: You just chose sides right there in your comment.

Re:App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveD... by asdfasgasdgasdg on Friday July 10, 2020 @08:24PM (#23798199)
Same could be said of an industry, and economy, or even a species. We are all part of systems at many different levels. Our critics might attempt to tie us to the bad parts of our systems and our proponents might seek to separate us from those same demerits. But I think either way of looking at it is just rhetorical.