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Re:Police surveilled protests with help from Twitter-affilia... by slg on Friday July 10, 2020 @05:35PM (#23796786)
What is the difference between a "looter" and a "robber"? You can't simply link every death that happens during this time frame to the protests and if you do, you need to compare it to similar deaths that happened at other times.

>I just feel that it's hard to justify it as worthwhile when people engage on a non-factual level.

Which brings me back to the first reply to you. You are asking people to click through at least 3 level of links before we get to a non-biased source that can provide facts. People aren't going to think that effort is worthwhile if the first page they land on is a site founded on spreading conspiracy theories.

Also I quickly googled Dorn and you are fudging the facts a little. He is a 77 year old retired police officer. His death had nothing to do with him being a police officer. He was working as a security guard when he was killed. Coincidentally police have also recently killed an on-duty security guard[1]. Mentioning one and not the other can be an indication of bias.

[1] - https://www.ajc.com/news/police-shoot-kill-year-old-hispanic...

Re:Police surveilled protests with help from Twitter-affilia... by Natsu on Friday July 10, 2020 @07:32PM (#23797845)
Anyone can look and see the path of arson, robbery & destruction that is not a part of any normal crime pattern. When dozens of people rob & destroy a Wal-Mart, Target, etc. that's "looting" not mere robbery or such.

Insofar as you want to compare crime stats, CHAZ/CHOP is part of a huge % increase in crime. Even CHAZ "security" managed to shoot people.

I only said that Dorn was a cop, not that he was murdered for being a cop--you're putting words in my mouth. I believe I did mention that some of even the 17 had been shot by cops and there were more deaths after that.

I take making false claims about what I've said to be a red flag.

Re:Police surveilled protests with help from Twitter-affilia... by slg on Friday July 10, 2020 @08:46PM (#23798348)
>Anyone can look and see the path of arson, robbery & destruction that is not a part of any normal crime pattern. When dozens of people rob & destroy a Wal-Mart, Target, etc. that's "looting" not mere robbery or such.

Once again more context you are expecting your reader to look up rather than have explained by an unbiased news source.

The question isn't whether looting happened. Of course it did. However there are also hundreds of thousands of robberies and millions of larcenies. Those don't just go away during times of civil unrest. How do you decide what is considered looting connected to the protests versus traditional robbery or larceny?

>I only said that Dorn was a cop,

Here is what you actually said:

>>David Dorn, a black cop murdered by looters

There was no past tense on being a cop there.

Re:Police surveilled protests with help from Twitter-affilia... by Natsu on Friday July 10, 2020 @10:13PM (#23798876)
> How do you decide what is considered looting connected to the protests versus traditional robbery or larceny?

There's a video of the people looting the store and several arrests were made. But you know that because you reviewed all that context, right?

> There was no past tense on being a cop there.

You do realize that I mentioned that he's dead, right?

But let's humor this for a moment... the fact that he was an old retired cop trying to keep his friend from losing his income and ending up in the proverbial poorhouse somehow makes his murder less awful to you?

Of course, that would only last until you found out about Sgt. Damon Gutzwiller or Dave Patrick Underwood, one assumes. Or will I hear more complaints if I neglect to mention that neither is black and the second is more of a security guard than a cop?