One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud

Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by viburnum on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:08PM (#23783176)

The unstated assumption in this article is that only college graduates deserve to have a decent life.

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by magicsmoke on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:27PM (#23783398)

Something I've heard from Chinese people online about the difference between the US and China is that in America, you could be a plumber/auto mechanic/skilled trades and still have a middle-income lifestyle and a decent amount of societal respect. In China, working with your hands puts you on the lower rungs in society, hence everyone wants to get into college.

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by leafboi on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:43PM (#23783556)

The kind of cultural attitude you describe reflects the supply and demand logistics of the economic conditions that were responsible for modern China as it is today.

Modern China was built off the backs of Cheap Manual laborers

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by Animats on Thursday July 09, 2020 @04:49PM (#23785024)

That's in the past in the US. It was true until maybe 20-30 years ago.

China today seems to put bright people into improving manufacturing technology. There are PhD theses from China on electrolytic capacitor free switching power supply designs for LED lightbulbs. US academia would frown on something that practical.

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by a_imho on Friday July 10, 2020 @05:05AM (#23789554)

Even more perverse, there seems to be a broad sense that this is the way things should be. This is one of the secret strengths of right-wing populism. You can see it when tabloids whip up resentment against tube workers for paralysing London during contract disputes: the very fact that tube workers can paralyse London shows that their work is actually necessary, but this seems to be precisely what annoys people. It's even clearer in the US, where Republicans have had remarkable success mobilizing resentment against school teachers, or auto workers (and not, significantly, against the school administrators or auto industry managers who actually cause the problems) for their supposedly bloated wages and benefits. It's as if they are being told ‘but you get to teach children! Or make cars! You get to have real jobs! And on top of that you have the nerve to also expect middle-class pensions and health care?’

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by TrackerFF on Thursday July 09, 2020 @06:34PM (#23786038)

I don't think "deserve" is the best word to use, but I can absolutely see how it's a deciding factor whether you get to live a comfortable and secure life, vs pretty much working to survive.

But that's not really unique to China. One can go to the more expensive cities in the western world, and take a look at how the working classes are just surviving. Zero upward mobility, once you're trapped in those jobs - from a professional point of view.

I've had the great displeasure of working minimum wage dead-end jobs, in a major city, and it was the most stressing thing of my life. Poor pay, ever-increasing rents and general living costs, zero job security, close to no prospects of owning your own apartment or home.

You don't really feel like a permanent resident. Just a transient passing through, and when the jig us up, you're out.

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by darawk on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:17PM (#23783288)

It seems more like it's saying that people deserve to receive the benefits associated with the test score that they actually got.

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by paulchap on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:12PM (#23783219)

How exactly do you arrive at this conclusion?

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Re:One woman's stolen identity exposed a system of exam fraud by airstrike on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:18PM (#23783298)

Not sure about China, but that is pretty much the unstated assumption that defines life in other developing countries.

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