Re:TOR Made for USG Open Source Spying Says Maker
by JoachimSchipper on Monday March 28, 2011 @08:54AM
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Nothing to see here, move along.
Summary: tor was written to help e.g. informants securely get information back to the US government; but an anonymity network that only carries spies' information back to the US government is not terribly useful, so they opened it up. Yes, tor was made for spying, but not (necessarily) for spying on tor users.
Re:TOR Made for USG Open Source Spying Says Maker
by hollerith on Monday March 28, 2011 @05:52PM
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>tor was written to help e.g. informants securely get information back to the US government
-- and so that the U.S. military could use the internet to research, e.g., bullets made of kryptonite-zirconium alloy without outsiders being able to tell that they are researching kryptonite-zirconium alloys -- which Reed refers to as "open source intelligence gathering" in the OP.
Re:TOR Made for USG Open Source Spying Says Maker
by bryanlarsen on Monday March 28, 2011 @08:51AM
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The title might be misleading here: tl;dr: TOR was made by spies to use to transmit information securely.
When I read the title, it implied to me that it was designed by spies as a trojan to leak information back to them. That would have made a much more sensational story, which is why I jumped to that conclusion, I suppose.
Summary: tor was written to help e.g. informants securely get information back to the US government; but an anonymity network that only carries spies' information back to the US government is not terribly useful, so they opened it up. Yes, tor was made for spying, but not (necessarily) for spying on tor users.
-- and so that the U.S. military could use the internet to research, e.g., bullets made of kryptonite-zirconium alloy without outsiders being able to tell that they are researching kryptonite-zirconium alloys -- which Reed refers to as "open source intelligence gathering" in the OP.
"Preposterous" sums it up nicely. If you don't think it's preposterous, then you would not be in agreement.
What else needs to be said? You either believe the hogwash or you don't. No need to get into facts, those are obvious.
When I read the title, it implied to me that it was designed by spies as a trojan to leak information back to them. That would have made a much more sensational story, which is why I jumped to that conclusion, I suppose.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Open_source_i...
Not this open source:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Open_source