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Re:Ask HN: Are YouTube ads getting worse? by taylodl on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:55PM (#23772422)
Not supporting is not the same as stealing. It's your business as to whether you want to support YT or not, but your disagreeing with their business practices or business model does not give you the right to steal. Perhaps I've misunderstood you (I'm reading this in context of your previous comment where you said you were okay with this, which I take to mean you're okay with stealing their content)?
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Re:Ask HN: Are YouTube ads getting worse? by TheAdamAndChe on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @02:04PM (#23772522)
We have different ethical standards then. If a company is a monopoly that actively leverages its power to manipulate entire populations, then I am fine with exploiting services which it makes available. They have the ability to keep me from accessing the site if I use an ad blocker. If they want me off the platform that much, they can boot me off.
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Re:Ask HN: Are YouTube ads getting worse? by foolmeonce on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @02:41PM (#23772943)
True but this is a better argument for leaving. They will retain you without ad income largely because that is valuable to them compared to people leaving their platform and what a group of actual non-spectators might entail afa the marketplace.
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Re:Ask HN: Are YouTube ads getting worse? by TheAdamAndChe on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:01PM (#23773147)
I see what you're saying, but that's a prisoner's dilemma[1]. By that I mean it would require the coordination of millions of others who are also sick of the platform to behave irrationally. It also assumes that people who leech off of YouTube would be unwilling to try a different site because of their leeching.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

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Re:Ask HN: Are YouTube ads getting worse? by taylodl on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:55PM (#23774136)
This, I think, is your argument. It's helped me to see where you're coming from and - I don't disagree. This is a good point. Thanks for helping me see things differently!
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Re:Ask HN: Are YouTube ads getting worse? by yazanobeidi on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:34PM (#23773432)
Sounds like a Nash equilibrium.
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