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Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:55AM (#23768142)
> to promulgate the narrative that SARS-CoV-2 is unusually dangerous

What is wrong with you? There is no evidence in your post to justify anything you say, you are either wishing things away or actively spreading FUD.

Flu: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-...

"The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited [as influenza deaths] do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates [...] In the last six flu seasons, the CDC’s reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths—that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus—has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620, which far lower than the numbers commonly repeated by public officials and even public health experts."

> SARS-2 is a great spreader and a very poor killer

And actual mortality figures https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

> with outcomes overwhelmingly positive

Why the hell are you posting this? Your disinformation may contribute to people dying, are you ok with that? I'm all for contrarian views if they are backed up with evidence - so produce some.

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by jakeogh on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:11AM (#23768219)
CDC Influenza and pneumonia deaths by influenza season and age: United States, 2008–2015: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/influenza-and-pn... (these are not estimates, see the footnote)

  2015-2016
  Flu: 7,961
  Pneumonia: 131,858 
  All: 1,769,940
Excess deaths are all that really matters. Why not talk about those instead?
Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:20AM (#23768256)
Thanks for that. I don't understand the discrepancy between the article and the link you posted, however from your cite of 7,961 flu deaths (in the US) agrees with what the sciam article said.

> Excess deaths are all that really matters. Why not talk about those instead?

Good point, but I don't have them. What my and your posts seem to show is that flu is a heck of a lot less mortal than this covid. Which is the point.

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by jakeogh on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:41AM (#23768363)
NP. Regarding your last point, my understanding is the pneumonia deaths are on the same pdf because they are end game deaths from getting sick. Likely with one of the flu's. The COVID-19 death stats on the other hand, are inflated: http://v6y.net/1541e03e6cfd1442590bc7b5476f88c30a29a0d881bdb...

What really matters is excess deaths.

https://aspe.hhs.gov/cdc-%E2%80%94-influenza-deaths-request-...

(Table 1, down to 71) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

We maxed out at 140% between 4/11 and 4/18/2020. One could try correlating that with the lockdowns.

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @07:50AM (#23768962)
While I don't necessarily agree with this post (see below, plus I haven't had time to read your links properly), I don't see why it's downvoted - if there's a reason the downvoter should say why.

Anyway, I don't buy your reason for pneu & flu being on the same page, flu may be a subtype of pneumonia but there are many causes of pneumonia, and I don't expect flus to blow up into pneu. Then again, I'm just guessing.

Your second link is not official government statement - indeed it was so weird I didn't understand what I was reading at first - it's a letter expressing a person's opinion, not a government position. I don't know it's value.

The table's interesting, but the percentage of expected deaths don't make sense (read: I don't understand them). It may be down to time lag on reporting, but it's a big lag.

Anyway, well done for providing figures!