2015-2016
Flu: 7,961
Pneumonia: 131,858
All: 1,769,940
Excess deaths are all that really matters. Why not talk about those instead?> Excess deaths are all that really matters. Why not talk about those instead?
Good point, but I don't have them. What my and your posts seem to show is that flu is a heck of a lot less mortal than this covid. Which is the point.
What really matters is excess deaths.
https://aspe.hhs.gov/cdc-%E2%80%94-influenza-deaths-request-...
(Table 1, down to 71) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
We maxed out at 140% between 4/11 and 4/18/2020. One could try correlating that with the lockdowns.
Anyway, I don't buy your reason for pneu & flu being on the same page, flu may be a subtype of pneumonia but there are many causes of pneumonia, and I don't expect flus to blow up into pneu. Then again, I'm just guessing.
Your second link is not official government statement - indeed it was so weird I didn't understand what I was reading at first - it's a letter expressing a person's opinion, not a government position. I don't know it's value.
The table's interesting, but the percentage of expected deaths don't make sense (read: I don't understand them). It may be down to time lag on reporting, but it's a big lag.
Anyway, well done for providing figures!
What is wrong with you? There is no evidence in your post to justify anything you say, you are either wishing things away or actively spreading FUD.
Flu: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-...
"The 25,000 to 69,000 numbers that Trump cited [as influenza deaths] do not represent counted flu deaths per year; they are estimates [...] In the last six flu seasons, the CDC’s reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths—that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus—has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620, which far lower than the numbers commonly repeated by public officials and even public health experts."
> SARS-2 is a great spreader and a very poor killer
And actual mortality figures https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
> with outcomes overwhelmingly positive
Why the hell are you posting this? Your disinformation may contribute to people dying, are you ok with that? I'm all for contrarian views if they are backed up with evidence - so produce some.