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Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by JKCalhoun on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:27AM (#23767133)
What a house of cards the U.S. economy is. I am truly worried wondering when the other shoe is going to drop.
Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by Aloha on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:38AM (#23767185)
When the hopium that wall street is smoking runs out. Probably the end of November.
Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by joshspankit on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @11:12AM (#23770671)
Hahaha no disrespect, but I’ve been seeing almost this exact conversation continually for at least 20 years (the number of years I’ve been curious about economics).

At this stage, it doesn’t matter what runs out, who takes the fall, or anything else (save the democratic power of the people): the power structure will do whatever it takes to maintain that house of cards.

Fractional reserve lending alone can prop up the system almost indefinitely. (Feel free to debate this if you feel strongly, but A. it’s only 1 tool in the garage, and B. Arguments about “they can’t” or “it’s not legal” are irrelevant because they will simply change or circumvent the law.)

Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by votepaunchy on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @07:35AM (#23768895)
If half of small business are destroyed, who benefits? Wall Street will emerge from this with far greater control.
Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by bootcampwhere on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:50AM (#23767254)
I've been saying this since QE1. A nation cannot continuously devalue it's currency forever while producing less and less of value. The collapse has already happened and we're just running on fumes.
Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by blackrock on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @02:33AM (#23767452)
The nation produces hope. Hope is worth something.
Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by farone on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:32AM (#23767741)
It’s worth market “utility”, but not value. That is the point.
Re:Never Have I Seen So Much Fake Unemployment and Jobs Data... by redis_mlc on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @02:12AM (#23767345)
> What a house of cards the U.S. economy is.

No, actually pre-corona it was the strongest in world history because the US actually makes things, unlike the European "sick men" welfare economies.

My concerns are:

1) the societal rot that has set in, that will ultimately weaken the US and has already resulted in a populist President. Health insurance and education costs are an assault on the middle class and small business owners.

2) the monetary life support provided to Wall Street since 2008 with no effort at unwinding federal support for private industry since then. We've doubled-down during corona.