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Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by badRNG on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @12:20AM (#23766853)
> I’m increasingly convinced people are unsettled by the possibility that this could be anything other than civilization ending and the mask averse amongst us aren’t murderers.

In just the past couple of months, COVID-19 has racked up a body count of 130,000 dead Americans. For perspective, that's forty-five 9/11s worth of dead people. Asking people to wear a mask in public to curtail the spread saves lives. This has nothing to do with "desiring moral condemnation." The "mask adverse" can likely bear the burden of at least 1/45 of the deaths America has had compared to it's less "mask adverse" peers.

I absolutely hate wearing a mask, I'm "mask adverse" like yourself, but I wear one since this is a trolley problem where pulling the lever means I have to be uncomfortable for a few hours.

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by gnusty_gnurc on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @11:27AM (#23770836)
> I absolutely hate wearing a mask, I'm "mask adverse" like yourself

I'm actually not mask averse! I wear a mask all the time. I'm just interested and unsettled by what seems to be a pervasive, immediate, visceral moral reaction that fits all to well into the moral superiority and virtue signalling zeitgeist.

That reaction to seeing someone without a mask is not an analytical judgement based in evidence - almost no one who feels this way is reading the literature or following the inconsistent scientific position of the effectiveness of mask wearing that's changed 180deg seemingly overnight. They're making moral judgments.

I've seen enough people saying frankly "it's about showing you care."

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by jakeogh on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @12:56AM (#23767009)
So, roughly twice as bad as a normal year flu/pneumonia count?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/influenza-and-pn...

  CDC #'s 2015-2016
  Flu: 7,961
  Pneumonia: 131,858 
  All: 1,769,940
And, the death stats are inflated, it's official: http://v6y.net/1541e03e6cfd1442590bc7b5476f88c30a29a0d881bdb...

The only real measure is excess deaths.

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by Fjolsvith on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:33AM (#23767163)
"The state of Florida has had 82,397 people 34 & under test positive for the coronavirus. Of that number, 28 have died. That’s a coronavirus death rate of .00034. They’ve had 144,210 54 and under test positive. That’s a .0016 death rate." [1]

1. https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1280250042603929604

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by akiselev on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @02:54AM (#23767554)
That is some seriously disingenuous math. Whoever came up with that calculation is deliberately trying to mislead (aka lying) or is utterly incapable of grasping the concept of time.

A month ago, Florida had 66,000 confirmed cases. Now it has over 200,000. With a virus take takes two to eight weeks (or more) to kill, we haven't even begun to see the real death rate.

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by hi_hello on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:36AM (#23767768)
Yep. Even without accounting for the lagging death metric, the present mortality rate in FL, all ages, is around 1.7% (3.8k deaths/213.8k confirmed)[1].

.. side note, 20452 confirmed cases per million residents of Miami-Dade. 2% of the population, geez.

[1] https://covid-19.direct/county/FL/

Re:Increase in delirium, rare brain inflammation and stroke ... by jakeogh on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:01AM (#23768445)
Where are the FL excess death stats?