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Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by whatshisface on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @07:01PM (#23765194)
It's not possible to calculate that exchange rate, because you don't have access to the counterfactual. You're not taking the ratio of lockdown years to years lost to deaths, right? Both of those belong in the expenses side...
Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by username90 on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @07:05PM (#23765243)
Sweden didn't lock down, that is the typical worst case you would get. So lives saved is the deaths per pop in Sweden compared to deaths per pop where you are.
Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by ptr on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:53AM (#23767268)
The picture you’re painting doesn’t represent reality — there were definitely lock downs (mostly related to elderly care, but also to varying degrees for the general public). People have worked from home since February.
Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by jaxaan on Sunday July 12, 2020 @06:27AM (#23810347)
You, as so many other, are ignorant about Sweden. We have had rules about social distancing, visit band in elderly homes, social distancing and washing hands. And if possible, work from home. Schools from age 16 are distance nu teaching, so are universitets.

All gatherings över 50 persons are forbiden and we are to told to not travel IF not needed.

We still uphold laws, so the government bor riksdag can force lockdown om People. But can close Stores and restaurants that doesn't follow rules.

And about Corona deaths, we are probably have more correct reports of deaths than many countries, like UK. Which probably are under reporting.

That based on all deaths reporter. The exccess deaths compared to previous five years are about the same as the reporter Covid-19 deaths. And the över deaths in Sweden are in pair with Denmark, higher then Norway but lower that Finland and Scotland (yes, part of UK).

And Finland has Hard lockdown, so Scotland and Denmark.

Even IF you compare Copenhagen area with Skåne area (South part of Sweden) with about same population, the death rate reporter of Covid-19 is higher in Copenhagen. There are areas in Sweden that have lower death rates then Finland, on pair with Finland.

So No, you are basically ignorant of the death rates of Sweden.

And yes, death rates of Covid-19 in Sweden are still lower than some bad influenza years, like in 2000. Even through the population in Sweden was smaller then, total number of deaths in flue was Word. And letting children go to school was a good Choice, as Corona isn't pushed by children, many are better going to school then forced to be at home. And they are not loosing important time in school with their friends and some normalities.

And the all deaths are now down to under normal years. Most thanks to the changed in behaviour has almost erased the flue in Sweden.

Comparing total deaths data, without different rules to define IF deaths are Covid-19 or not, shows that the lockdown in UK, Denmark and Finland did not do much difference. Not compared to Sweden, with moderate and mostly informed population about how to defeat the spread of the Corona virus.

But, that isn't interesting to wrote about, I guess. As it could show that the lockdown is the only solution, that it also cost life and sufferings.

Links on demands.

Re:Sweden: higher Covid-19 death rate while failing to colle... by jonathanstrange on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:30AM (#23768011)
No, Sweden has an exceptionally low population density. You cannot just grab a country and take it as a model for any other country. The same measures as in Sweden would lead to a catastrophe in many other countries.