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Re:“Industrial Society and its Future”: the writings of the ... by qpooqpoo on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @03:19PM (#23762984)
You're still conflating the success of a tactic in furtherance of a goal with the success of a goal.
Re:“Industrial Society and its Future”: the writings of the ... by shadowgovt on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @03:42PM (#23763187)
This entire subthread has been about tactics in furtherance of an ultimate goal. From a few posts above: > They demonstrably have been. Organized NIMBY campaigns, including campaigns containing a part of illegal land occupation but no part of mailing package bombs to individuals, have shut down all manner of development, including both nuclear power plants and oil pipelines.

> All the Unabomber accomplished was a lifelong stay in prison, the death of three people, and the injury of dozens more. By your strong metric, neither approach is successful. By a weaker metric, an organized campaign that doesn't include bombing people is partially successful.

Maybe the Unabomber's ultimate goals will bear out (I sincerely doubt it for reasons I have expounded upon elsewhere in these comments), but even if they do, he didn't pull it off.

If, 300 years from now, history remembers this era as a dark time of bad technology that humanity grew out of, the Unabomber gets remembered as this struggle's John Brown, not this struggle's Abraham Lincoln.